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captchris 05-02-2007 06:59 AM

New AWAC Mins
 
Well... Air Wisconsin has joined the rest of them:
Minimums
  • 500 hours total flight time
  • 125 hours multi-engine
  • ATP written within 1yr of hire
  • 1st class medical
  • Valid passport
*Pilots must have a High School Diploma or equivalent, provide proof of eligibility to work in the U.S., and must be able to read, write, understand and converse proficiently in English, the common/universal language of aviation.

http://www.airwis.com/car_pilots.htm?linkSrc=6

ExperimentalAB 05-02-2007 07:13 AM

I never thought I would see that happen...

Randolph 05-02-2007 07:16 AM

Skywest is next. Hopefully?

ryane946 05-02-2007 07:26 AM

The only regionals left at 1000/100 are Skywest, Republic, and Horizon. Gee... I wonder why?? Maybe because they are the best regionals out there (with XJT). Eagle is at 800/100. Lakes is at 750/50 (how are they still this high??) Otherwise, everyone is 600/100 and BELOW. Very interesting times.

What happens when mins hit commercial/multi for most regionals? Hiring bonuses seem to be a short term answer. Is there becoming a CFI shortage? How are part 135's doing? Banner tow, traffic watch, skydivers... Does anyone have some real life experiences or numbers that show they are experiencing shortages?

SharkyBN584 05-02-2007 07:34 AM

My old flight school can barely hold on to CFI's for 6 months. They're leaving for regionals on a monthly basis. The funny thing is, a CFI there makes more than an FO at any regional.

saab2000 05-02-2007 07:36 AM


Originally Posted by ryane946 (Post 158827)
Does anyone have some real life experiences or numbers that show they are experiencing shortages?

The numbers are in the first post of this thread.

When I was hired 3 years ago it was 1500 total time. I don't remember the M/E requirement. Most of the people in my class had had previous 121 experience. That fact that they are setting mins this low means that they are really scraping the bottom of the barrel now for applicants.

The real shortage isn't here yet. But it's coming and this is evidence of that shortage.

BoilerUP 05-02-2007 07:49 AM


Originally Posted by ryane946 (Post 158827)
The only regionals left at 1000/100 are Skywest, Republic, and Horizon. Gee... I wonder why?? Maybe because they are the best regionals out there (with XJT). Eagle is at 800/100. Lakes is at 750/50 (how are they still this high??) Otherwise, everyone is 600/100 and BELOW. Very interesting times.

What happens when mins hit commercial/multi for most regionals? Hiring bonuses seem to be a short term answer. Is there becoming a CFI shortage? How are part 135's doing? Banner tow, traffic watch, skydivers... Does anyone have some real life experiences or numbers that show they are experiencing shortages?

Republic is hiring folks straight out of Purdue with 500 hours and a CFI and hired Delta Connection pilots with 800 hours when minimums for everybody else were a hard 1500/300. Horizon has hired low-time UND grads for YEARS. Skywest is hiring pilots with 800/850 hours from ATP and has hired friends of mine under 1000tt that have been 121 current. To claim that these airlines are somehow still holding the qualifications bar high is foolishly naive at best and downright wrong at worst.

How is the pilot shortage affecting things outside of the regionals? I was offered a 135 captain position on a light jet recently and I am just short of 2000tt...

Tinpusher007 05-02-2007 08:00 AM

I spoke to a guy at the career fair in Orlando who confirmed this, Im no where near 125 multi though. He says they are hiring for attrition only. My guess is that they weren't getting a lot of high-time guys and gals applying despite their good contract because most know that there is no growth and upgrade takes a while.

cbire880 05-02-2007 09:20 AM

Ok, so for you AWAC guys out there, what is the best way to get their attention aside from flying to ATL and giving Kit Darby $150? I submitted my resume online about 3 weeks ago with 1670tt/430me and haven't heard anything.

BoilerUP 05-02-2007 09:24 AM

Submit your resume via online, email, fax, snail mail, etc. Update it every 2-3 weeks. If you know anybody that works here, have them forward your info to Employee Relations.

As much as it pains me to say it...Air, Inc. might be the easiest route, especially since they are doing interviews on the spot there.


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