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POPA 05-05-2007 11:38 AM

Threads like this are the reason that the general public thinks we're all overpaid. "Wah, my pay got cut and now I'll have to send my kids to public school and sell our second vacation home."
Gasp, the horror!

CE750 05-05-2007 11:49 AM


Originally Posted by skywatch (Post 160770)
I'll take that challenge. Wow - first try. 15 minutes from downtown Cincinnati. They have two major league sports teams, a symphony, an aquarium, and some folks have ce-ment ponds.

Welcome to reality. You should try living here.

http://www.sibcycline.com/viewlistin...=SearchResults

$149,000 for a home in a town where the median price of a home is $96K and the average person is making $31,000/yr?

Your idea of a good life is a 14x11 master bedroom, in a zipcode with schools in the bottom 10% of the country and where the number of people with college degrees is about 12%?? You have GOT to be kidding me.. please, tell me you're joking.. Cause if not, we have to stop debating, there is no point of reference.

http://local.reply.com/real-estate/KY/covington.html

So I guess the next thing you're going to say now is that pilots are blue color labor that fits in someplace between bus driver and day laborer.

CE750 05-05-2007 11:53 AM


Originally Posted by POPA (Post 160784)
Threads like this are the reason that the general public thinks we're all overpaid. "Wah, my pay got cut and now I'll have to send my kids to public school and sell our second vacation home."
Gasp, the horror!

This from a guy who's not flown anything bigger than a small twin? Boy, I guess you are a seasoned pilot with several type ratings and a few furloughs under your belt so you must be an expert on the subject of pilot pay and life at the airlines.

Ok, I'm outta here..

POPA 05-05-2007 11:54 AM


Originally Posted by CE750 (Post 160792)
This from a guy who's not flown anything bigger than a small twin? Boy, I guess you are a seasoned pilot with several type ratings and a few furloughs under your belt so you must be an expert on the subject of pilot pay and life at the airlines.

Ok, I'm outta here..

"Small twin"? Geeze, you sound like my passengers. :rolleyes:

GauleyPilot 05-05-2007 07:06 PM


Originally Posted by CE750 (Post 159906)
Walmart... Heck, I don't even shop in that white trash infested hole

Ah, a K-Mart Man, or Target perhaps?;)

satchip 05-05-2007 08:02 PM

some observations
 
I just wasted 30 min of my life that I will never get back by reading this entire thread.:) some observations,

the median household income for the entire USA in 2005 (the latest census data available) was $46,326. So yes, $50,000 is a lot of money to more than half the country.

A very nice home in San Antonio in a great neighborhood with good schools can be had for well under $450k
http://sanantoniohomesforsale.yourkw...rget=idx_url_1

At the low end, pilots are grossly underpaid. At the high end, not so much. But these pay rates are market driven as all pay should be.

If you can't live like you want to in NJ, CA, MD, or where ever, move. High cost of living does not equate to high quality of living.

CE sounds like a snob

Just my humble opinion

Futureman 05-05-2007 08:05 PM


Originally Posted by CE750 (Post 160792)
This from a guy who's not flown anything bigger than a small twin? Boy, I guess you are a seasoned pilot with several type ratings and a few furloughs under your belt so you must be an expert on the subject of pilot pay and life at the airlines.

Ok, I'm outta here..

He's probably is his early 20's and living at home, or in a 1br sh#tbox. He's in for a rude awakening when he gets married, has children, and has to provide a good QOL for them. These hobbyists are the reason the profession is going down the tubes. They will work for scraps so that they can call themselves airline pilots. God forbid a pilot flying a 747 across the pond wants to make enough money to live in a nice city and send his children to a private school.

SkyHigh 05-05-2007 09:37 PM

Younger generation
 
The apple farmers saw their jobs go away to immigrants from the south. Pilots watch helplessly as younger people take over to do the same job for less.

How can they understand until it is their turn to be undercut? It is not anyone's fault. The job is just too easy now. High school kids will be the next wave.

Skyhigh

1Seat 1Engine 05-05-2007 10:02 PM


Originally Posted by satchip (Post 161009)
I just wasted 30 min of my life that I will never get back by reading this entire thread.:) some observations,

the median household income for the entire USA in 2005 (the latest census data available) was $46,326. So yes, $50,000 is a lot of money to more than half the country.

A very nice home in San Antonio in a great neighborhood with good schools can be had for well under $450k
http://sanantoniohomesforsale.yourkw...rget=idx_url_1

At the low end, pilots are grossly underpaid. At the high end, not so much. But these pay rates are market driven as all pay should be.

If you can't live like you want to in NJ, CA, MD, or where ever, move. High cost of living does not equate to high quality of living.

CE sounds like a snob

Just my humble opinion

Two...

And as a native Arizonan and close follower of real estate, just because you can't buy a house here doesn't mean that you don't make enough, it just means that the idiots have bid the prices of the houses too high. Look at renting a house until the craze blows over. Rents are at all time lows and landlords are dieing for good tenants.

But if you need to buy a house I can assure you that there's plenty of 3br 2000sq foot houses available for $300k or even less.

Flaps50 05-05-2007 10:38 PM

50K is not a lot of money nor is 100k today really.
 

Originally Posted by 1Seat 1Engine (Post 161041)
Two...

And as a native Arizonan and close follower of real estate, just because you can't buy a house here doesn't mean that you don't make enough, it just means that the idiots have bid the prices of the houses too high. Look at renting a house until the craze blows over. Rents are at all time lows and landlords are dieing for good tenants.

But if you need to buy a house I can assure you that there's plenty of 3br 2000sq foot houses available for $300k or even less.

That cheap 300k house is about a $1500-2000 a month payment. Good luck on a regional FO's pay or a RJ Captain's pay for that matter. 100K where I live means that your wife has to work too to afford that 300K house. That isn't to far off the median house price either.


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