Unfortunately, the Atlanta area fills that bill. Greater ATL area-pop. 5,000,000. We are up to out A$$ in transient yankees....

haha those darn transient yankees!

Ya also need to think about retirement. So you can buy a house on 50k in stl, do ya plan on funding your retirement in your late 40/50s without the benefit of your money compounding? 50k is chump change. Save for retirement and you will be paycheck to paycheck for the rest of your life.
Go check out some retirement calculators and see what you need to contribute to live the same type of lifestyle until you die. You will be surprised.

I was only referring the young posters who have no idea what it takes to raise a family in most cities. More specifically, the ones who seem to be willing to work for peanuts just so they can fly. I'm glad to see that not all the young guys think 50k is a reasonable wage to pay an airline pilot who has a college education, 100k in aviation training, and is responsible for the safety of hundreds of lives every flight. :)

http://flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=689429

Here is a more specific link. This just shows you what the common trash out there thinks of the profession. These tards don't understand that a 30% raise isn't very good when it's following a 50% pay cut.

New Generation
 

The current post 911 generation of pilots are braced to work for nothing. The future will be even lower wages as these guys join the union and start to delute the ranks.

Anyone left here who thinks there will be increased wages? Good luck.

SkyHigh

20 Years
 

When I was 20 years old I would have jumped at the chance to fly for a regional. However times were very different, I had to work for years as a CFI then air taxi in several states for many years more before I was competitive for a regional. When I did finally get on at a regional I was the lowest time guy in class with 3800 hours total and 1400 multi-engine.

The sacrifices I made along the way are what solidified my expectations. If I was a 20 year old 300 hour new hire at a regional I would have hardly invested anything. Easy come easy go I guess. Who cares about anything when the job has no value to the people who hired on with nothing?

The job is meaningless to someone who acquired easy success at such a young age. Why expect to get paid too?


I sacrifised a lot and expect a lot.

SkyHigh

These statements are consistent with my local observations. I know a bunch of pilots who went to the regionals in the last few years, and the only reason they did so was they thought a lottery strike of rapid advancement will kick in for them somehow and get them on with FedEx and Delta.

I'm a little depressed about it since all through school I looked up to this career and I no longer really believe it's worth it. There is a long hard road involved. At least I have a back up plan in case the aerospace industry tanks. Don't hold your breath waiting for that to happen.

wow those people are even more hot than us. Unfortunately, that thread reflects the attitude of the general public when it comes to pilot salaries and salaries in general. Alot of it is just envy that someone else gets more than "moi". But when 50% of the population makes less than 50K and our level of economic education is so terrible, it's not surprising. And it doesn't help one's cause to call them "common trash". Remember the absence of that trash in the seats of airplanes is why pay was cut in the first place. Public opinion plays a huge role in labor disputes. The government ultimately settles the bitter disputes and government is made of politicians who read polls assiduously.

Do the math: $100,000 a year is $8333.33 a month.

Payments on a $300,000 loan might be as high as $2200 a month (PITI)

You think someone could survive on the remaining $6100 per month? <sarcasm should be obvious>


I've almost never made over $100,000 a year in my life and will make significantly less than that now. Wife does not work. I live in a >3000sq foot house in a very nice neighborhood. 4 kids; college, Army, High School. I drive a paid off lexus.

Not trying to brag but according to some of you guys, I'm a hillbillie in a trailer park. I think you need to rethink your budgets.