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Originally Posted by dera (Post 2886725)

There are great 135 companies there.

There are.

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Originally Posted by dera (Post 2886725)

They are not all crappy Caravan SIC jobs where you clean toilet bowls with your bare hands while loading a 400lbs elephant in the cargo compartment to get it overweight and out of W&B in a snowstorm.

But most of them resemble that ^^^

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Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 2886740)

There are.

But most of them resemble that ^^^

And the good ones tend to close up shop every few years with almost no job stability over the long run.

Great while they last, but they don't last long!

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Originally Posted by DoNoHarm (Post 2886889)

And the good ones tend to close up shop every few years with almost no job stability over the long run.

Great while they last, but they don't last long!

Nope.
The good ones have been going on for 10+ years.

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Originally Posted by dera (Post 2886897)

Nope.
The good ones have been going on for 10+ years.

10 years isn't long, its just a start! A decent career is 30+ years.

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Originally Posted by DoNoHarm (Post 2886901)

10 years isn't long, its just a start! A decent career is 30+ years.

Exactly. Got an example of a good career at a regional for 30 years?

^^THIS^^

A heaping bowl of awesomeness!!!

Thanks for sharing.

I was in flight training when the towers got hit and took a break during the lost decade until 2018 at 45 years old. Wrapped up my I, C, CFI this past year and have been instructing ever since- closing in on 1K hrs (I'm the newbie).
Instructors (good instructors!) are an extremely valuable commodity for the foreseeable future- anyone thinking of getting into this industry now, do it now.
There has never been a better time. There will never be a better time, or another time, after this one- technology will be a heavy bearish force impacting any potential future hiring wave that might have existed in the future.
Do it now.

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Originally Posted by Pilotchute (Post 2884271)

Have we seen the end of it? My Regional has had full classes for 9 months now. Republic and many other regionals have full indoc classes for the next 6 month minimum.

Is this the new normal?

not even close, I came out of the corporate woodwork (135/91 since 08) got response from every regional I applied to.

does look like they are interviewing just about everyone but giving a few thanks but no to some.

there are probably 1.5-2 applications for every class slot out there (depending on regional)

some (republic) seem to have many more qualified candidates than they need.

A friend of mine believes the regionals will soon run out of career changers. These people got their pilot certificates 10+ years ago but left the industry. They have been flooding back to aviation due to big sign on paychecks and a much improved hourly rate.

Once this dries up he believes that regionals will go back to having only 3 or 4 people in a new hire class. For the non WO owned anyway.

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Originally Posted by Pilotchute (Post 2887682)

I don't know, it would seem that they have done a really good job of developing their upstream recruiting. While I agree career changers are over, I think they have bought enough time to get people back into flight schools to fill the voids.

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Originally Posted by DarkSideMoon (Post 2886715)

Depends on your definition of QOL. Being someone’s whipping boy was not for me. If my airline wants me to come in on my day off I have 0 fear about saying no. If I don’t believe it’s safe to go, I have 0 fear about saying no.

I don’t have to go to six liquor stores to find diet cherry vanilla caffeine free Mexican Coke Zero for my super special client after flying a six leg day. I don’t have to wash out a plastic bucket with a hose in the woods after Sir Reginald’s caviar doesn’t agree with him.

I bid my schedule (which had given me Christmas and thanksgiving off the past two years!), fly the plane, help passengers when I can (of my own free will!) and go home. I can live wherever I want, and if I can’t make it to work due to issues outside my control I don’t get punished for it. I have an active safety program and can ASAP events without fear of reprisal. And I hit six figures.

Scheduled 15 days off/ month, $1K every day over. Knew my schedule up to a year in advance. Never pushed & had ASAP. Didn't apply for any regionals when the company went under.