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42jeff 11-09-2019 08:24 AM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 2920820)
Yeah, if we're going to get college loans forgiven I want my mortgage forgiven too... frankly I need a place to live more than most of these people need a BA in underwater woke basketweaving.

Also I need a few years of my life back from obligated service from my military college scholarship... they can just write me a check for those years, base pay at my highest final rate.

Yep. I did 22 years enlisted paying for flight lessons along the way to pick up my ratings. Got an ssociates with PME and a bunch of CLEP tests. Then GI Bill to finish my bachelor's. If they do start forgiving loans I'm totally going to pout and flaunt my Mid Atlantic starfish gender studies degree.

Happyflyer 11-09-2019 09:38 AM

I don't see why the public thinks major state university's should be free from the federal government.
Add one year to high school and teach AP, shave 25% off the cost of college. 3 years are cheaper than 4. Makes too much sense.
Flight schools get approved for tax free mogas, raise 100 hour inspection to 200, with a light check at 100. Put C-152s back in production.

ItnStln 11-09-2019 10:39 AM


Originally Posted by Cicada (Post 2920007)
Have had the pleasure of mentoring a young Amish man from Indiana who decided he wanted to be a pilot. He was educated to the eighth grade level, customary in Amish order and became a carpenter. As he obtained his ratings, we were under the assumption he needed a HS diploma or GED for the ATP. He did study hard and obtained a GED.
He is a very hard worker, super contentious and polite. The next step was to get to an AA wholly owned, to get the flow as we were not sure how long it would take to get the college degree. He has decided to get that degree. He is presently at one of the wholly owned, PSA, progressing very well. He recently told me his mother apologized for taking him out of school, as she realized it was a huge obstacle for him to later overcome. But it was simply how life was conducted in his order of religion.
So, obstacles can be overcome if one puts time and effort in.

That's an awesome story!

DarkSideMoon 11-09-2019 10:47 AM


Originally Posted by OOfff (Post 2920711)
Your “middle of the road hypothetical” suggests a major airline upgrade at age 32.

Lmfbo

From the United page on here.
“Most Junior CA Award: (SFO) 737 - Hired Fall 2015”

4 year upgrade. Mandatory retirements aren’t even close to in full swing yet.


Originally Posted by terks43 (Post 2920724)
Don’t blame him, he’s just spitting off the same lie that was spoon fed to him by college recruiters to scam him into spending a stupid amount of money on something that means absolutely nothing.

Had to use my fancy college education to pull up the United page on APC.

There were people on here before I went to college that would’ve said a 1.5 year upgrade at a regional was insane, never going to happen, and that the pilot shortage is a myth, and yet I got my 4th stripe almost 18 months to the day from passing FO OE.

At least with United AVIATE, a less than 3 year stay at a regional is possible now, and I know quite a few peers of mine that ended up at Delta less than four years after starting at a regional. Plenty of people going to spirit and frontier, and those payscales are still going to give doctors a run for their money the first ten years or so.

Stoked27 11-09-2019 06:05 PM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 2920820)
Yeah, if we're going to get college loans forgiven I want my mortgage forgiven too... frankly I need a place to live more than most of these people need a BA in underwater woke basketweaving.

Also I need a few years of my life back from obligated service from my military college scholarship... they can just write me a check for those years, base pay at my highest final rate.

Maybe if we could force the federal loans to be co-signed by the universities themselves then they would limit how many basket weaving students they accept each year. Force the schools to put more muscle into their job placement efforts and truly care about the students’ success after graduation. I think we’d see more technical schools popping up to accept federal loans.

Selfmade92 11-09-2019 06:10 PM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 2920820)
Yeah, if we're going to get college loans forgiven I want my mortgage forgiven too... frankly I need a place to live more than most of these people need a BA in underwater woke basketweaving.

Also I need a few years of my life back from obligated service from my military college scholarship... they can just write me a check for those years, base pay at my highest final rate.

Sorry, but... education should be funded by the government as it helps the country. Your house is just a private gain....

Airbum 11-09-2019 07:03 PM


Originally Posted by Selfmade92 (Post 2921105)
Sorry, but... education should be funded by the government as it helps the country. Your house is just a private gain....

And it is. Through high school


Oh wait, I forgot the government does pay for education even past high school...... GI bill. Enlistment bonuses, the Military Academies. But weirdly they have a need beforehand and you volunteer to fill it if able. Can’t see things functioning well on the pathway of individuals deciding what’s fun and then making others pay for it.

42jeff 11-10-2019 05:16 AM


Originally Posted by Airbum (Post 2921126)
And it is. Through high school


Oh wait, I forgot the government does pay for education even past high school...... GI bill. Enlistment bonuses, the Military Academies. But weirdly they have a need beforehand and you volunteer to fill it if able. Can’t see things functioning well on the pathway of individuals deciding what’s fun and then making others pay for it.

You do realize we have to pay into the GI Bill right? Thanks for your bitterness

PontiusPilot 11-10-2019 05:19 AM


Originally Posted by 42jeff (Post 2921241)
You do realize we have to pay into the GI Bill right? Thanks for your bitterness

Since 2009, paying into the GI Bill is no longer necessary.

rickair7777 11-10-2019 09:58 AM


Originally Posted by Selfmade92 (Post 2921105)
Sorry, but... education should be funded by the government as it helps the country. Your house is just a private gain....

I'm actually an advocate of TARGETED education assistance for those in need. If you're willing to compete a degree in a subject which will benefit the country (ie in demand by the economy), and do it within a specific timeline, and to a certain standard of completion then I'm good with full rides and even room and board assistance.

But for those who just want to do a degree that will allow them to party for 5-6 years while stalling their entry into the work force at public expense... No thanks, not on my dime. I actually need my house more than those people need an all expenses paid vacation to recover from HS before hitting the real world.


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