Don't buy CrewLounge / MCC Pilot Log
#31
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Joined APC: May 2018
Posts: 777
It’s all the same with these logbook companies - price gouge a high income customer base for a simple database app. I left Logten 5 years ago and went with a spreadsheet (numbers/excel) stored on my iCloud Drive. Haven’t looked back since.
#32
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Joined APC: Jul 2014
Position: B747 FO
Posts: 610
So? Ever heard of inflation? Companies got to make money somehow... Are we really that cheap, 11 years ago i spent the equivalent of one medical exam and it lasted 10 years before i now had to spend it again. You tip the drivers more in a couple of months than you need to in order to have a logbook for life.
#33
Well I'm an idiot. After playing around with Safelog and Rooster buster, (Safelog won't grab your schedules from your airline so yet another vendor to pay) I got frustrated and upgraded MCC to new and improved Pilotlog. Big mistake, nothing is new and improved, in fact the UI is a step backwards, ugh. It's literally a cut-paste unrefined excel spreedsheet that you get to configure so you can read all the smashed up columns. Why is this so difficult.
What else is out there? Logten Pro?
What else is out there? Logten Pro?
#34
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Joined APC: Jun 2019
Posts: 101
Well I'm an idiot. After playing around with Safelog and Rooster buster, (Safelog won't grab your schedules from your airline so yet another vendor to pay) I got frustrated and upgraded MCC to new and improved Pilotlog. Big mistake, nothing is new and improved, in fact the UI is a step backwards, ugh. It's literally a cut-paste unrefined excel spreedsheet that you get to configure so you can read all the smashed up columns. Why is this so difficult.
What else is out there? Logten Pro?
What else is out there? Logten Pro?
#35
Well I'm an idiot. After playing around with Safelog and Rooster buster, (Safelog won't grab your schedules from your airline so yet another vendor to pay) I got frustrated and upgraded MCC to new and improved Pilotlog. Big mistake, nothing is new and improved, in fact the UI is a step backwards, ugh. It's literally a cut-paste unrefined excel spreedsheet that you get to configure so you can read all the smashed up columns. Why is this so difficult.
What else is out there? Logten Pro?
What else is out there? Logten Pro?
With Safelog, you just need to copy and paste your schedule from your scheduling software. For example, Flica users can just copy the text of their trip schedule and paste it into Safelog. It's not fully automatic, but the parsing works perfectly.
#36
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Joined APC: Apr 2015
Posts: 608
Ok I'll go ahead and say it - I'm probably in the 1% of pilots that isn't a math nerd or excel junkie.
So with that said - RE copy paste into Safelog, APDL was also supposed to be copy paste into LogBookPro I believe several years ago when I previewed it for free, I did not find it copy paste friendly (also add the expensive APDL to the negative column).
Referencing the above statement about how UN-nerdy I am... what do ya'll think is the easiest, user friendly electronic logbook.
I'll also add - when I tried to move my LogBookPro logs into MCC it wouldn't' accept them due to a lot of the entries being made up names we had for Helicopter Field Operations jobsites. I followed their how-to directions verbatim and tried to do it what I UN-nerdily thought was logical and just could not get it to work. Even sent them a copy of the CSV and what they sent me back didn't work.
Conversely, when the MCC decided to abandon ship on us lifetime purchasers - I followed LBPro directions verbatim and also utilizing google results and I could not get LBP to take my CSV file from MCC...
Is there any electronic logbook out there that is dummy proof that I can convert both of my logs relatively easily to AND also downloads (or copy pastes) your schedule with relative ease ?
Thanks
So with that said - RE copy paste into Safelog, APDL was also supposed to be copy paste into LogBookPro I believe several years ago when I previewed it for free, I did not find it copy paste friendly (also add the expensive APDL to the negative column).
Referencing the above statement about how UN-nerdy I am... what do ya'll think is the easiest, user friendly electronic logbook.
I'll also add - when I tried to move my LogBookPro logs into MCC it wouldn't' accept them due to a lot of the entries being made up names we had for Helicopter Field Operations jobsites. I followed their how-to directions verbatim and tried to do it what I UN-nerdily thought was logical and just could not get it to work. Even sent them a copy of the CSV and what they sent me back didn't work.
Conversely, when the MCC decided to abandon ship on us lifetime purchasers - I followed LBPro directions verbatim and also utilizing google results and I could not get LBP to take my CSV file from MCC...
Is there any electronic logbook out there that is dummy proof that I can convert both of my logs relatively easily to AND also downloads (or copy pastes) your schedule with relative ease ?
Thanks
#37
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Joined APC: Oct 2019
Posts: 1,281
Well I'm an idiot. After playing around with Safelog and Rooster buster, (Safelog won't grab your schedules from your airline so yet another vendor to pay) I got frustrated and upgraded MCC to new and improved Pilotlog. Big mistake, nothing is new and improved, in fact the UI is a step backwards, ugh. It's literally a cut-paste unrefined excel spreedsheet that you get to configure so you can read all the smashed up columns. Why is this so difficult.
What else is out there? Logten Pro?
What else is out there? Logten Pro?
#38
It looks good, nice interface. Not liking that it won't import from my company, gave me a coupon to try roster buster free so I go there and no place to put in the coupon, just PP or CC links?
I tried to import one trip manually and it got completely hung up on a deadhead, they're built into our schedule with "o" block. It wants an A/C type for the deadhead and wouldn't advance or ignore that? I spent some time on that but needs attention.
I tried to import one trip manually and it got completely hung up on a deadhead, they're built into our schedule with "o" block. It wants an A/C type for the deadhead and wouldn't advance or ignore that? I spent some time on that but needs attention.
#39
The home page is covered with big blank squares for flight/duty times and currencies, all empty and will stay that way, don't need that. A big weather blank on the bottom? umm, this is a log book. The flight time totals are smashed way over in a small box on the left hand side, the total box so small it can't display all the numbers? It's garbage, contracted out and built quickly by someone who has no idea. It's in no way shape or form an update to MCC, all the other crew lounge junk I don't want or need is the update, paid for by the former MCC lifetime buyers.
#40
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Joined APC: Oct 2019
Posts: 1,281
Not really, I go to the import your roster with one click button and get the Skedplus interface only works with mobile device in big yellow letters? Why? It worked fine on MCC?
The home page is covered with big blank squares for flight/duty times and currencies, all empty and will stay that way, don't need that. A big weather blank on the bottom? umm, this is a log book. The flight time totals are smashed way over in a small box on the left hand side, the total box so small it can't display all the numbers? It's garbage, contracted out and built quickly by someone who has no idea. It's in no way shape or form an update to MCC, all the other crew lounge junk I don't want or need is the update, paid for by the former MCC lifetime buyers.
The home page is covered with big blank squares for flight/duty times and currencies, all empty and will stay that way, don't need that. A big weather blank on the bottom? umm, this is a log book. The flight time totals are smashed way over in a small box on the left hand side, the total box so small it can't display all the numbers? It's garbage, contracted out and built quickly by someone who has no idea. It's in no way shape or form an update to MCC, all the other crew lounge junk I don't want or need is the update, paid for by the former MCC lifetime buyers.