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sanicom3205 03-09-2020 01:06 AM
Originally Posted by havick206 (Post 2992353)
Are there nett profit numbers anywhere?
  • American Airlines Group annual net income for 2019 was $1.686B, a 19.41% increase from 2018.
  • American Airlines Group annual net income for 2018 was $1.412B, a 10.14% increase from 2017.
  • American Airlines Group annual net income for 2017 was $1.282B, a 50.39% decline from 2016
  • Delta Air Lines annual net income for 2019 was $4.767B, a 21.14% increase from 2018.
  • Delta Air Lines annual net income for 2018 was $3.935B, a 22.78% increase from 2017.
  • Delta Air Lines annual net income for 2017 was $3.205B, a 23.6% decline from 2016.
  • United Airlines Holdings Inc annual net income for 2019 was $3.009B, a 41.8% increase from 2018.
  • United Airlines Holdings Inc annual net income for 2018 was $2.122B, a 0.98% decline from 2017.
  • United Airlines Holdings Inc annual net income for 2017 was $2.143B, a 4.07% decline from 2016.

sanicom3205 03-09-2020 01:16 AM
Some other things to consider with the numbers above:

Average fleet age:

AAL: 10.8
DAL: 15.8
UAL: 15.1

ninerdriver 03-09-2020 01:45 AM
Originally Posted by sanicom3205 (Post 2992367)
Some other things to consider with the numbers above:

Average fleet age:

AAL: 10.8
DAL: 15.8
UAL: 15.1
Shareholder debt-to-equity ratio as of 12/2019:
DAL: 92%
UAL: 159%
AAL: -18,181% ($21.45B debt vs. -$0.12B equity)

sanicom3205 03-09-2020 03:19 AM
Originally Posted by ninerdriver (Post 2992371)
Shareholder debt-to-equity ratio as of 12/2019:
DAL: 92%
UAL: 159%
AAL: -18,181% ($21.45B debt vs. -$0.12B equity)
So they finance all these new planes through debt, that info is not new. But they are not “gasping for air”.

rickair7777 03-09-2020 08:10 AM
Originally Posted by sanicom3205 (Post 2992367)
Some other things to consider with the numbers above:

Average fleet age:

AAL: 10.8
DAL: 15.8
UAL: 15.1
Originally Posted by sanicom3205 (Post 2992380)
So they finance all these new planes through debt, that info is not new. But they are not “gasping for air”.

If you're taking the longer view...

Environmental concerns may well drive rapid transitions to newer, more efficient equipment types and that may have to happen inside the normal life cycle of aircraft depreciation. So somewhat older planes (vs. newer of the same type) might be better if you have to unload them earlier than anticipated.

If I were an airline manager, I'd be trying to guess when the new technology on the horizon will inject step-change fuel efficiency (and thus carbon efficiency) into the market and time my fleet planning accordingly.

msprj2 03-09-2020 09:00 AM
Originally Posted by 86BravoPapa (Post 2990832)
Anyone with upcoming interviews considering delaying due to THEE virus? Two thoughts come to mind: 1) Travel and obvious risk of contracting the virus. Not likely a big deal if you're young(er). 2) Air travel 'blows up' until we finally get a light at the end of the tunnel and, meanwhile; interview, receive an offer/start date then get postponed, furloughed, whatever, with the hope you can return to your previous job.

Anyone already at the airlines with insights about the projected impact at your company would be great. Although the dynamics are changing so rapidly, at this point, who really knows the ramifications, tomorrow, in a week, in 2021...
you are absolutely correct. However it takes months to get through the training
so you’re likely not online until the fall

sanicom3205 03-09-2020 10:32 AM
Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 2992547)
If you're taking the longer view...

Environmental concerns may well drive rapid transitions to newer, more efficient equipment types and that may have to happen inside the normal life cycle of aircraft depreciation. So somewhat older planes (vs. newer of the same type) might be better if you have to unload them earlier than anticipated.

If I were an airline manager, I'd be trying to guess when the new technology on the horizon will inject step-change fuel efficiency (and thus carbon efficiency) into the market and time my fleet planning accordingly.
You could apply this logic to a vast variety of technologies, from more efficient engine options to supersonic and single pilot aircraft. Good luck with figuring that out

Casualinterest 03-12-2020 07:31 AM
Originally Posted by daOldMan (Post 2990837)
This may not be the profession for you. If you are this worked up about a media hyped flu, then consider an office job somewhere.



Worst case scenario...you get a cold and have a cough for a day or two.



Fuel prices are way down, the government is waiving the taxes for airlines, and everything will be back to normal in a month or two. Look for increased profits this year!
This post is not going to age well

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86BravoPapa 03-15-2020 08:24 AM
Originally Posted by Casualinterest (Post 2995377)
This post is not going to age well

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Just about any post I've ever seen that includes the phrase: "...this may not be the profession for you...," is usually trash and comes off as being written by a dunce. That post you're referring to proved no different.


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