Originally Posted by rickair7777
(Post 3009710)
They can (should IMO) ramp up for mass production NOW, do that in parallel with trials.
And doing productions in parallel with trials is also very risky. Again, it is like starting a production line up while and aircraft is still being designed. A large percentage of vaccines fail during the initial testing. I'm not saying they won't/shouldn't start production while still testing, but who is going to pay the bill when they find out 2 months into production that the vaccine failed human trials or what if COVID-19 mutates? |
Keep in mind Italy is already on the other side of the curve, it took like a month and thousands of deaths. They've been the worst case scenario so far, so it's really up to as a society to learn from other countries' mistakes and make the right decisions.
New York is completely out of control. With that being said, if Majors need to hold in there in order to get federal aid....by the time that happens, situation could've changed completely. Will the economy be destroyed at that point? that I don't know. |
Originally Posted by 2StgTurbine
(Post 3009721)
It just isn't feasible. Making a vaccine requires specialized equipment. Saying "just ramp up production now" is the same as telling Boeing to just make more 777s. It takes months to build these facilities. Most of the manufacturers are private companies. Who is going to provide the financing? When everyone gets vaccinated in a couple of years, what are these companies going to do with these facilitates once there is no more demand?
They should also obviously start ramping up whatever additional production facilities are needed... Ford is making medical ICU equipment out of F-150 parts, I'm sure they can figure something out. We can do what we need to do, we DON'T have to accept the standard bureaucratic salutation: "The answer's No, now what's the question?" |
Originally Posted by rickair7777
(Post 3009747)
I used to work in that industry... they already have large-scale vaccine production systems, especially for the flu.
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Originally Posted by 2StgTurbine
(Post 3009759)
From what I've read, each production facility is highly specialized. Modifying one facility to make a different vaccine takes time and that can't be done until they actually create a working vaccine. And then it still comes down to who will pay for this. Private companies aren't going to take a huge financial risk by stopping production of their current vaccine (which would involve breaking contracts) in order to start producing a vaccine that is still being tested.
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Originally Posted by glorifdbusdrivr
(Post 3009461)
With the given situation, layoffs and furloughs seem inevitable. So when do they start? How can all the airlines cut this much flying and keep everyone employed. There have been VLOAs offered but I'm sure not many want to take it given the economic uncertainty.
today unfortunately. ..filler.. |
Originally Posted by 2StgTurbine
(Post 3009759)
From what I've read, each production facility is highly specialized. Modifying one facility to make a different vaccine takes time and that can't be done until they actually create a working vaccine. And then it still comes down to who will pay for this. Private companies aren't going to take a huge financial risk by stopping production of their current vaccine (which would involve breaking contracts) in order to start producing a vaccine that is still being tested.
The fed will have to force the issue, which they can do. They already have a vaccine, so they know what they need to do to mfg it. |
Originally Posted by rickair7777
(Post 3009846)
They already have a vaccine.
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Who will be the first to furlough? (TSA/compass don’t count) I hear people say that the airlines are holding out for stimulus, and ineligible if they furlough.
I just saw 120 new hire ground/ramp personnel at DFW get terminated and escorted out yesterday. Sad :/ |
Originally Posted by propellere
(Post 3009857)
Who will be the first to furlough? (TSA/compass don’t count) I hear people say that the airlines are holding out for stimulus, and ineligible if they furlough.
I just saw 120 new hire ground/ramp personnel at DFW get terminated and escorted out yesterday. Sad :/ |
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