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Originally Posted by AllYourBaseAreB (Post 3078661)

All I have to say is patience and timing. This certainly is a bad time to be a fresh ATP looking for an RJ/CFI job, BUT, right now is NOT nearly as a bad as previous slow downs in the industry. At least not yet...

For large stretches of the 80’s & 90’s the industry was brutal. From 2001-2005 very little hiring anywhere. 06-08 was good but then age 65 and the recession. 08-10 sucked. 2011-19 was the longest stretch of good news in airline history. Hopefully this hiccup lasts only a year or two. Once we recover, as long as the retirement age doesn’t increase, there will a strong demand for new pilots through the end of the decade.

If you can afford to start training now, with the expectation to enter the industry in a few years, I’d say it’s fantastic timing. I started training in 02, got a CFI job in 06, regional 07, major 13.

You mean I won't be flying wide-body aircraft to Kuala Lumpur by the time I'm 30? Okay, thanks boomer. I am going to blame you because I don't have an easy path. Where is my participation trophy and government subsidized IPA?? *hands up in the air emoji* *crying face laughing emoji* *crying face laughing emoji* *crying face laughing emoji*

If you’re Chinese you got a great chance!

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Originally Posted by VegasChris (Post 3078231)

There is absolutely nothing right now for 1000 hour CFI. I applied to 4 jump operations and nothing. The 141 school I went to is getting 10+ CFI applications daily. They are a Korean mill, but the embassy is closed so their new students can't get visas. So once the current students are done they will dry up. All of the mom and pop schools are overstaffed with CFIs and barely flying anyways. The Canyon tour operators have pretty much written off the summer season. Fire department cut my overtime completely for the next year- they are fixing the budget shortfall with brownouts.

Definitely some interesting times ahead- current civil unrest, Oct 1 aviation layoffs, upcoming election with political polarization, and no sign of a second stimulus going anywhere. Only job worse than a low seniority pilot right now is a police officer.

Need to try harder bro, I applied to 126 dropzones with a wet(ish) commercial and got 7 offers. Flying a 206 full time and making decent money, and I say that as a career changer with a wife and kids to feed. I make $700-800 per week depending on weather.

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Originally Posted by deftone (Post 3078762)

Flying a 206 full time and making decent money, and I say that as a career changer with a wife and kids to feed. I make $700-800 per week depending on weather.

Uhhh... where do YOU live? Because that isn't really a realistic budget for most places in the country.

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Originally Posted by deftone (Post 3078762)

Wow, 126. I wonder how many applications and phone calls that was. More drive than I do, but I don't want to leave my current career at this point

I have all my hours required now- so I think I am just going to wait it out.

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Originally Posted by VegasChris (Post 3078804)

Same boat, same plan. People have different life situations and different priorities. Nothing wrong with that. I commend the people who can/will uproot the fam and move to the sticks in order to chase a flying gig. I spent my time in the military moving all over christ’s creation, and now that I’m out—nope. Not doing it anymore unless it’s in a desirable locale and/or lucrative. Everyone has their line in the sand, and that one is mine.

If you've got the hours and ratings, and you’re sitting on a good career in a location you like with a stable family life? Hard to justify shaking that up in order to fly jumpers and eat ramen in a place you hate. I say let it ride, stay current, take whatever local part time flying gigs you can find, and see how the industry shakes out in a couple years.

I would obviously have different advice for the 22 year old Riddle grad with a backpack of clothes on his back and a ‘will fly for food’ bumper sticker on his car. In that case, go live the dream while you’re young and single, and go chase those hours wherever they can be found...

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Originally Posted by SonicFlyer (Post 3078772)

Uhhh... where do YOU live? Because that isn't really a realistic budget for most places in the country.

It’s more than I make at a regional lol

$800/wk is about $46/hr, assuming 75hr/month. Gross, no per diem, no bonuses, etc.

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Originally Posted by SonicFlyer (Post 3078772)

Uhhh... where do YOU live? Because that isn't really a realistic budget for most places in the country.

lol, damn near what I make flying the 175 for Envoy as a first officer. If it meant I could be home overnight and not deal with the airline lifestyle I would be down, surely until things got better.

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Originally Posted by SonicFlyer (Post 3078772)

Uhhh... where do YOU live? Because that isn't really a realistic budget for most places in the country.

How much do you think regional FO's make?