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ExperimentalAB 05-24-2007 03:16 PM

Long as I make Captain on the RJ by the time the law takes effect...just don't want to be stuck in the right-seat at a regional forever!!

G-Dog 05-24-2007 03:26 PM

it is about the money
 
Look at it this way: All union dues are base off a percentage of the pilots pay, right? Old guys make more so, the union can make more per pilot.

BoilerUP 05-24-2007 03:31 PM


Originally Posted by stickwiggler (Post 170473)
your math is fuzzy... how does five years at "middle of the pack" pay get to be worth than 5 years of the highest payrate you'll ever see?

Time/value of money and compounded interest. Swayzee hit the nail on the head.


Boiler, I could be wrong, you might be a former C-5 Air Mission Commander with 20,000 hours and a PHD in astrophysics, but my guess it your are 20 something, got hired at an airline when you still didn't even have a comma in your logbook. The sense of entitlement that a lot of younger pilots have doesn't set well with the crowd that has been doing this a long, long time.
While being completely irrelevant to the point at hand...I am 23, have a B.S. and was hired into the CRJ with 1,100 hours total time. I had a slot in the ANG but it didn't work out medically.

You speak of a sense of entitlement in younger folks...just what do you think old folks have??? I've heard a bunch of incredulous attitude from pro-change folks that older pilots are seemingly "owed" another 5 years because of their 1. seniority, 2. sacrifices post-9/11, 3. loss of pensions or the most foolish of them all, 4. age. Older pilots have fought their battles and faced their adversity; younger pilots will do the same in their time. Why should I have fo fight for both? Why should my earning potential and career progression fund their loss of pension, ex-wives, toys, and financial mismanagement simply because of my young? If that's not narcissistic, I don't know what is!

The absolute only thing I feel "entitled" to is the same benefit of career progression as a 59 year old had when he was in my shoes. Actually, I also feel entitled to folks telling the truth about this whole deal...its not about "the right thing to do", its not about ICAO, its about money.

CashRefund 05-24-2007 04:32 PM

Well just think, you still get your extra 5 years at the top of your game.. :)

Eric Stratton 05-24-2007 04:38 PM


Originally Posted by CashRefund (Post 170549)
Well just think, you still get your extra 5 years at the top of your game.. :)

completely wrong. right now a pilot has those five years to look forward to already. the extra 5 years will be where ever you are at when the rule changes. if you make captain it will be as a captain. it you are an fo it will be as an fo. if your stuck at a regional it might very well be their unless you are one of the lucky few...

AFPirate 05-24-2007 05:01 PM

I side with those who AREN'T freaking out about the age 60 rule.

1) While there are things about flying that does stress one out, for the most part, someone is paying me to FLY AN AIRPLANE. If I personally ever get sick of it, I know McDonald's is always hiring.

2) Orville and Wilbur should have indicated that operators of their miraculous invention would lose all commercial privileges at age 65...then we would have never had this whole problem to begin with.

3) It's got to go to 65. We should have never forced people to retire to begin with --- I've got to believe that any folks that are complaining currently WOULD/WILL feel differently if they were at 59.5 and didn't want to stop doing what they love.

Mon deux centimes.

Eric Stratton 05-24-2007 05:27 PM


Originally Posted by AFPirate (Post 170562)
I side with those who AREN'T freaking out about the age 60 rule.

1) While there are things about flying that does stress one out, for the most part, someone is paying me to FLY AN AIRPLANE. If I personally ever get sick of it, I know McDonald's is always hiring.

2) Orville and Wilbur should have indicated that operators of their miraculous invention would lose all commercial privileges at age 65...then we would have never had this whole problem to begin with.

3) It's got to go to 65. We should have never forced people to retire to begin with --- I've got to believe that any folks that are complaining currently WOULD/WILL feel differently if they were at 59.5 and didn't want to stop doing what they love.

Mon deux centimes.

1. it's called work and you should get paid for it.

3. those same people will still be complaining at 64.5. I want to know what is it going to do to my body. ie flying back side of the clock. do some studies before just changing the rule.

CashRefund 05-24-2007 06:19 PM


Originally Posted by Eric Stratton (Post 170552)
completely wrong.

You say potato, I say skittles...

Eric Stratton 05-24-2007 07:44 PM


Originally Posted by CashRefund (Post 170601)
You say potato, I say skittles...

no I said you were wrong, not potato. sad that you don't see it.

CashRefund 05-24-2007 07:50 PM

Well, that's neat..

I like to think that I am right.. You like to think you are right..

Potato's and skittles..


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