XJT company email says they’re doing 5000 block in August compared to the 30k they were planning for. Nail in the coffin if I’ve ever heard it.

Did someone else get that flying or is United reducing the schedule again?

unsure. XJT is operating 16% of the expected flying. Other UAX carriers are doing 50%+.

ZW is doing 4,400 block hours in August vs 2,200 in July. Subject to change of course. We were supposed to do 14,500 pre COVID 19. Makes it only 30% of what we were supposed to do.

Anyone know how C5 is doing?

Negative. The company has not communicated any information about the August schedule. It is hard to imagine any significant block hour increases without Newark. July is about 27% of normal.

SKYW is currently getting 50% of UAX flying right now.

WARN letters going out to every XJT employee.

Any verifiable source on XJT?

oof :(

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It’s true, even SK himself

What they claim about it is total BS.. As some on XJT sub forum posted..

“Management explained in a town hall that letters would be sent to everyone strictly to satisfy reporting requirements.”

No other airline is doing that.... Sounds fishy..

Its no mystery why Skywest does well. No its not because we are cheap. Its because we have a history of being able to step up when other regional fail to uphold there obligations.
Last September, Mesa couldn't cover IAH ER7 routes due to lack of pilots. UA asked Skywest to help. When Horizon had issues years ago with lack of pilots, Skywest was able to step in and cover there routes until Horizon could get proper staffing. It happens all the time, these are just a couple examples and unlikely any regional is going to tell there pilot group they had lost routes because of staffing.
Yes, Skywest is currently doing OK compared to other carriers. But, it's mainly on the ERJ side. Our 200 flying is in the toilet, just like everyone else.
I'm not confident that the 50 seat only carriers are going to weather this.
If it comes down to it ALPA will buckle on scope clause if it means saving jobs, especially under the current conditions. Atleast temporarily.
I was part of ALPA at one point at another carrier and post 911, they pretty well threw us under the bus when it came to the contract. Who's interest are they gonna protect? The 2% revenue from a regional pilots salary VS 2% of a legacy salary.
Let's not sugar coat it, doesn't matter what carrier you work for, the current flying climate gives the airlines the upper hand. Right now its short term damage control with log term planning being prepped in the background. This is "act of God" circumstances and as long as the carriers are getting what they want out of the union groups, they will be happy but when push comes to shove, they will break the contracts and chances are a judge will side with airline management.
In general it sucks to be working for an airline right now.

Please share with us the statistics on YV’s performance last September in IAH

Sorry I don't have them. It was what I was told by a chief pilot. It made sense since we never had run the 175 down there outside of a few rare flights. This past trip I ran in and out of there six times on a four day. It was supposed to stop last January but it never happened. So I'm not sure why we continue to keep doing IAH trips.

SkyWest is doing IAH trips because it is cheaper to run a SkyWest 175 than a United 737. That's why they're doing IAH trips. Now if you want to talk about a real case of SkyWest taking over MESA flying, go look at DFW.

What a bunch of nonsense. You are cheaper. You can underbid contracts because you benefit from economies of scale and your business structure is inherently different than most regionals. You assume the risk of leasing aircraft so your partner airlines don’t have to. Makes a nice neat little package to offer.

so you are saying OO is cheaper because it is better run, not because pilots make less (spoiler alert, they don’t)

I used to fly for OO and would not have traded my situation for any ALPA UAX carrier, but was very pro ALPA at OO

not necessarily better run, but large enough to run slimmer profit margins than its competitors. I suppose you could argue it's larger than its competitors because it is better run than other regionals, but the issue at hand has more to do with economies of scale than a better product/management. however, a better product/management can help a company achieve such economies of scale in the first place

I did a lot of research when I was looking at regionals and I don’t think you will find a better run regional in the UAX brand. Not saying they are perfect and I do hope they vote in ALPA eventually, but if you could own 10% of any UAX carrier, who would it be?

Yes OO has economy of scale. Also financial flexibility to offer things like turnkey fleets at no up-front cost to the major partner and the ability to quickly ramp up new operations (certain other regionals consistently commit to doing that and then consistently fail). Even loans to distressed major partners.

They are well run, certainly by regional airline standards. That's how they got the economy of scale in the first place.

That’s being done in case Kirby goes with the “shutdown XJT” option that seems to be on the table.

I just did a 3 day, SFO - RNO - SFO - EUG - DEN -SAF - EUG - SFO. I was slightly astonished to see that at EUG and SAF, the only airplanes at the airport were OO (wearing UA, DL, and AA colors). At SFO, and I kid you not, of 5 airplanes in the departure lineup, 4 were OO. Finally at DEN, we were at the head of a 6-plane lineup for the 25 departure. Four were OO 175s. One was a UA A319. And then there we were in an OO CRJ-700.

It was kinda spooky, I gotta say.

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Turbo was just stating facts.

lol I found it hilarious. It’s a solid gif

“Everyone likes their own brand”...except for Expressjet, they hate you twice as much as they hate themselves. :p

How has United gotten away with this many 175s flying around? I thought they would be restrained by scope by now...

This is the most skywest pilot post ever

Its. 12 month look back. Q4 2020 it will be an issue.

I think you're missing my tone. I'm not a company cheerleader. I'm merely reporting what I saw. Both of us on the trip were like "Does this seem weird to you?"

lol, you should see their forum. More inane posts like that. It is a fun game to them to see what regionals die while they continue to survive. "Hey look at us!"

If it helps you to believe that, then by all means, believe it.

I had good friends at Compass and TSA. Plus at Expressjet, and things aren't looking too rosy over there. It's awful when any of us lose our jobs. My point in that post was not gleeful...my point was that it was just so strange to be out there and see almost no mainline aircraft and absolutely zero other regionals (aside from one Horizon -400.) I was making a surprised observation, not trying to crow about the fact that OO is still doing a lot of flying. In the pre-covid world there was more than enough flying to go around...alas, come October 1, we're all going to be staring down a very different reality, no matter where we work. :(

Most regional forums on APC seem to be like that. If you're looking for intelligent conversation, a regional forum on APC isn't a likely place to find it.

The OO forum barely has any activity on there.

The Compass forums were still the best on APC


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The Compass forum was like that nice neighborhood in the middle of Detroit. Nice people, good memes.

“Doctor, the COVID anti-body test for this man came back with a remarkable reading”

What did it say nurse?

”100% Kool-Aid”

My God, get this man out of here and into a cockpit! His company is understaffed as we speak!

Does the fact that United only sent letters to 2200 or so pilots say anything about their plan to lean into mainline vs express?

Considering UAL has one of the most restrictive scopes in the industry, and reduction in mainline flying is going to result in a proportional reduction in regional flying.

There’s a reason XJT sent its ENTIRE pilot group warn letters, and it ain’t good.

70-seaters are the ones which were already scope-restricted, and will be even more so once the entire scope look-back period encompasses the pandemic. There was still room under the scope clause to add quite a bit of 50-seat flying. On the other hand, SK signaled repeatedly that he doesn’t see a bright future for 50-seaters in the UA system. I guess that’s why even United doesn’t seem to know what the heck will happen to UAX carriers.