I heard that chq will be getting 60days notice. I think this is great not for chq but for Larry the been counter serves him right.

I am happy that chq is in IAH I have not had a hard stand since they came to town keep up the bad work.

There is no way in h3ll that anyone will ever fly over 50 seat jets for Cal other than Cal pilots. Our new contract sucks, the only thing we have that is worth a darn is our scope clause.

yeah but you gotta respect that CAL pilots dont give on this............I wonder what LArry is going to offer you guys come contract time to give on that

Its actually SAAB, not SLAAB:p

Not Going To Happen
 

Bedford is going to need more than a bible to make scope go away. Management at CAL doesn't have anything left in their arsenal to persuade 4,000 pilots to give up scope....

I am happy that we got to expand our bases and that Larry made the 69 planes ExpressJet got to keep new LR's and XR's. Made us more marketable to Delta and we never have to bump pax off our branded for weight restrictions. Express keeping the 69 jets and not telling CAL until the date in our contract isn't our fault. I don't get why people would be mad that our managment found flying four OUR PLANES without under cutting others. I'm not mad Chautauqua is flying 25% of CAL flying but I hope Larry learned his lesson and keeps 75% of the flying with us in 2008 or he can give us more XR's to fly for others.

well said, I agree 100%

There was an offer on the table for the company to make more money. They took it and it worked. The ERJs might still be built but that takes time and they needed aircraft right away. XJT was relieved of the flying by CAL for a reason. I don't know what it was but they did lose the flying and CAL wanted someone else to fly it. If CAL ask for XJT to pickup a little of "our" flying it wasn't ours to begin with. XJT was born to CAL. CAL cut XJT lose and starting handing out the flying. It's more like RAH is picking up the slack.

Eitherway it doesn't really matter. One base doesn't speak for the whole company. Here in CMH we seem to be one sharp setup. The company makes money hand over fist. I'm hoping we open an IAH 145 base so I could be at home. I hope XJT continues to pickup flying on the westcoast. I bought stock in them lol.

What are you talking about? I've been a Captain for 2 months- no where close to DAL or any other major?

whoops I meant BC Durbin, he had a DAL interview..................any word?

As far as I'm concerned, you XJT guys and gals can have the IAH flying. I just finished a four-day down there, and it was an absolute cluster. The only experience in my lifetime I could compare it to is UAX flying at IAD.

Last I heard, he didn't get it

that blows, hope it turns out differntly, you know him, or just read it on here?

I have flown with him before (ORF). He made a post in a Delta hiring thread that he didn't get the job... something about not being prepared to describe his leadership abilities and style i think

Oh man this is getting good, ops freq. was tight up for about 5 minutes because our friendly CRJ regional didn't want to comply with the instructions from ops. Real professional guys! Start an argument on freq. during peak time at IAH.

Here's some facts for you girls, since ya'll were throwing stats around:

XJT operates an average of 36,000 flights for CAL on a monthly basis, our controllable completion factor is

99.8%

A CRJ200 cannot replace a ERJ145XR on range and payload, hence the denied boardings averaging $70K a month at GSO, SDF, MSP, COS (which went back to XJT), STL, the list goes on and on.

CAL wanted to diversified as stated by both Larry and Jeff, and that is the reason why the 69 aircraft were release.

Facts nothing but facts, I can't wait to hear the excuses!!!

Well.. my dad can beat up your dad! :rolleyes:

BTW, how has XJT's bottom line been the past few month?? I know how RAH is doing....

Quality of service has NOTHING to do with how contracts are awarded or taken away. Just ask Air Wisconsin.

Our completion and punctuality rates for United as United Express were the best of all the UAX carriers. Yet they said we were too expensive. I wonder how much they are now saving by having deal with all the irate passengers who now have to deal with cancelled Mesa flights?

Anyway, cost (or appearance of cost really) is how this business runs. Quality is more or less meaningless.

You get used to it... trust me! ;)

Like gate agents have any idea wtf is going on anyway.

From somebody (me) who's worked Ramp, Gate, Check-In, Ticketing, and now the Right-Seat of an RJ, this is very, very true!

Not good. Stock's dropping. I'm buying :). Most likely because of the phat upgrades on some of the aircraft and expansion woes.

Where is this stat coming from? The U.S. DOT says otherwise.

I talked to a buddy who was just finishing IOE with CHQ on the CRJ. He said they had 3 aborted TO's in one / four day trip! I don't know why so don't ask.

Realizing this is more of an XJT Circle Jerk then the decimination of any real factual information helps me sleep better at night.

My best friends sisters brothers girlfriends cousins neighbor when they were kids works down the street from a guy who knows this dude who talks to a ramp agent that said CHQ was buying Comair and Mesa is getting 737's. There's about as much factual information in that sentence as there is in the majority of "Rumor" posts you see on this website.

When CAL puts out a memo, notice, declaration...or hell, I'll even take a Citabria towing a banner over IAH...that any of what ANYONE has said is actually going to happen, I'll believe it. Until then, I'll accept that XJT guys on here are ****ed at CHQ, want to call us a buncha names and be bitter. Of course...they're ever so friendly when they need a ride home. Have at it boys.

Love it man...You're my Hero!

With all due respect, Sharky- I beg to differ. I'd say the majority of us XJT guys aren't as bitter towards CHQ, as we are CAL. I've met some pretty friendly CHQ crews who made me feel more at home on their CRJ than the CAL crews ever did.

And as for the name calling and stupid comments from some of us on here... I guess you can chalk that up to immaturity. Being on our branded operations side now, I can totally see all the difficulties any new operation would present.

So, like I always say.... CHQ got 25% of the CoEx flying, but my commute went from 5 hours to 1!! :D



Is this stupid pi$$ing match ever going to end? :rolleyes:

heheh CHQ BLOWS......................just kidding fellas, I may seem like Im angry at CHQ guys, but that would be silly considering they really dont have any say in anything that management decides......................we are all just pilots, whom managements deems abusable, and dispensable..........if anything I think AIRLINE PILOTS anger should be against management who has turned this industry into what it is today, MANAGEMENT laughs at the fact that they have each pilot group ****ing on each other.......for what?????????? so they can have their million dollor bonuses while we look like jackasses flying airplanes around for 20$ an hour:confused:


When contract time comes around dont do what the FRONTIER girls did, and agree to a pay cut when airlines (Except FRONTIER:) )are making more money than they ever have..................

Frontier has lost money most if not all quarters in the last three years, Saab...

Doesnt mean the pilot group should take the pay cut............. I corrected my above post. For airlines like RAH that are making money, anything less than a 10% raise would be bull****

Thats a perfect example of what I mean........."FRONTEIR has lost money" and...............why should that be on the pilots back??????? their loss has little if anything to do with the PILOT GROUP, they were not making much money, their salaries is not cause for FRONTIER AIRLINES continuous loss....................

You're right.

It also doesn't mean they should strike for a 15% raise, either.

I don't know much about Frontier's new CBA but I don't know any pay dropped other than first year pay (which blows, but they approved that B-scale and they'll live with it). IMO the biggest thing Frontier pilots gave up was scope for Lynx...

I agree............ Im just sick of pilots taking the fault for AIRLINES MIS-MANAGAMNET.

Aren't we all? :rolleyes:

Reality is- it's like that in every industry. Employees get the unlubed shaft, management gets the golden parachute.

Friendly or not, the flights probably weight restricted anyway.

Amen, the last hard stand I had as spot 100, right by the door. Other than that its all gates:D And if i hear another CHQ pilot put all their woes on XJT because we kept the airplanes and because they get the hard stands I am seriously gonna lay someone out right in the middle of terminal B. Hears the deal folks: XJT told Larry that we were keeping the airplanes on the deadline specified. Larry knew what that date was but he and RAH decided to jump the gun and pick which routes and stations would go to CHQ before the announcement. I know it amused Jim Ream to no end when Larry just about choked on his burger when he told him XJT was keeping the airplanes. And as far as the hardstands, XJT has been using the hard stands for YEARS! If you can explain to me how XJT can use the hard stands and still get out on time with all the people and all the bags WITH ACARS (none of this calling your own times BS), I will give you a cookie.

Thats like saying a runner who jumps the gun was faked out by the starter not pulling the trigger when they thought they would. Give me a break:rolleyes:

Very true! I don't understand what CHQ's gripe with the hardstands is... they're no big deal unless you have 20 minutes to change planes, and your next gate is over at 60 or something- which wouldn't be a problem to them since they're stuck in the playpen over there anyway.

There was a rumor floating around the pipe that they're going to be using gates on a limited basis- wonder how that's gonna work out?


.... so, what kinda cookie ya got there, freezingflyboy? :D :p

CHQ has already started using some gates where NWA used to be (87-88 i think?) But they have to have a little adapter because the CRJ Can't Reach Jetways. Guess thats why they call CHQ the "special needs airline"

....any one you want from down in Gordo's. Best cookies in the airport!

hehe.... Cant Reach Jetways.... NICE! :D

and gordo's has some great food! dang there are some things I miss about IAH :p

Most of us can't get a ride home anyway because you can't even fill all 50 seats, hell you usually can't fill 45 of them. However, this is not your fault. I as an XJET pilot realize that, and therefore am not mad at you, the CHQ pilot. As a matter of fact, I have had many friendly conversations with CHQ pilots down in IAH. I also have many friends who fly the 145s for CHQ, most are STL based. My point is I as an XJET pilot am not mad or ****ed at you the CHQ pilots. I am mad and frustrated with CAL and your jackass CEO Bedford. He gave you guys a crap operation with the CRJs, not to mention the horrible W&B program they made. What is it, like 194lbs per person in the summer and 30lbs for every bag. No wonder you can't take everyone. Oh, and it also sucks that you get paid for butts in the seats and you take people over bags. Yeah, then they have to go on XJET flights that operate behind you and it screws commuters because our flight get weight restricted due to the fact we have to take the bags you left behind. Bedford bit off more than he could chew, and his employees, XJET employees, CAL employees, and CAL customers are all suffering for what he did. ****-poor decision making, guess thats why he fits right into the airline management profile. So once again, I am not mad at you the pilot. I caught a ride on a 145 and the crew was great...we BSd the whole flight. Oh, and I am SORRY for my co-workers personal attacks. P.S. Please fight for better payrates of the E170s. Thanks

Your blaming the CEO for the established average passenger weights? Seriously?