Lawsuit against CHQ???
 

I heard this from a friend who heard it from sue who heard from uncle harry who heard from his oldest chicken...so I wanted to see if anybody else had heard this. Continental is going to cut their contract w/CHQ and sue them for breach of contract? Anybody else hear this, or is the oldest chicken full of it?

full of it

From what I hear (all secondhand) the CRJ200 operation is a total wreck. If that's the case and CHQ isn't meeting performance standards, then that would be what Continental would potentially be terminating the contract on.

Haven't heard anything about it though.

Buncha crap. This little rumor popped up when we first started doing Continental stuff and our performance in IAH was beyond embarassing. Nothing says good times like trying to operate airplanes that sat in the desert for 3 years out of an airport we don't have any actual gates at with ground crew who were less than happy we were there. Since then, things have improved 10-fold. My last trip we left on time or early on almost every leg, and the trips that got delayed (nothing beyond 5-10 minutes) were all due to ramp or customer service.

I highly highly doubt there is more than a one in ten thousand chance of Continental terminating the CHQ CoEx contract.

However -- the service CHQ has been giving Continental is so horrendous in many instances that I would not be surprised if Continental demands a partial refund because the contract is not being followed.

Some stations are spending tens of thousands of dollars in travel vouchers per month because of CHQ flights and that information comes from a station manager himself that I spoke with.

All that said, it is not entirely CHQ's fault since XJT essentially faked out Continental by keeping all 69 airplanes instead of giving them back they Continental seemed to think they would.

I've heard that Cal isn't very pleased with CHQ's performance, and that they have a limited time to straighten up. After saying all that I've just heard it from other crew, and gate agents.

The CRJ200 program when it started was a disaster. Too many planes trying to come on too quickly to cover too much flying. They wanted to go from 0 to 44 aircraft in 6 months. It has sinced been revised and slowed down to make things go a lil' more reasonable. I did CAL stuff allllll last month and actually enjoyed it...which was a far cry from the one trip I did in April where I wanted to kill myself. For as much flak as CHQ gets for it's operation in IAH, it's not ALL our fault. We've made a LOT of improvements on our share of the problem. CAL has also recognized that fact.

That would be a more correct statement. And I highly doubt they'll ask for a refund. There were days in May where we beat XJT realibility numbers and beat CAL mainline performance factors. How quickly things change...

heheh you guys cant hanlde the truth...................

hahhahaahahah you operate a handful of flights who are you kidding bro????????????? Gate agents comment all the time how disgraceful CHQ is..................... your operation is a joke compared to XJT, lets be serious

CAL has also asked us to pick up the slack for CHQ...were all laughin at the CHQ mess...................:p

Direct quote from CAL Ops Agent while collecting release:

"It took XJT almost a year to get a decent operation going outta here. You guys are doing a great job."

Don't think you're the one and only carrier who can do a decent job for CAL. While you may balk that we're doing some of "your" flying...CHQ wasn't given the best circumstances to deal with. Get over yourself.

You mean CAL asked you to cover flying while we get more planes going? Thanks! Appreciate the help. :D

ahahhahahaha thats funny that same CAL agent is probably the one that says "man we never really knew how good we had it until SHIIITYTACO came in here"

enough bickering like little girls.................its sad

your airline blows:p heheh j/k who cares really......................is what it is

Your right. You're response to a thread is "AAAAHAHAHAHAHAH EVERYONE SUCKS WE ARE THE BEST!" But I'm the one "bickering"

I never said our performance was perfect. And hell, in the beginning it was pathetic. BUT it certainly is NOT that way anymore. I'm glad your proud of your carrier...but I'll be damned if I'm going to listen to some guy who doesn't even work here say anything bad about the company I work for and try to improve.

P.S. - For whatever it's worth, the XJT guys I've run into in IAH have been pretty classy. I'm guessing SAAB ain't down there ;)

thats funny most of the IAH xjt crews are the ones who dont wave hello at us when we pass each other........................... Im actaully a pretty classy guy despite my truck driver mouth...........:p


PS For anybody that believed our branded flying was going to fall flat, our load factors are hovering around a consistent 70%

Ya know...I gotta good friend at XJT in EWR who said the same damn thing, almost word for word.

P.S. - They don't wave to us either, so it's not just you. ;)

I swear its like an ongoing joke. We wave when were taxing and you can always tell a iah crew..........haha I dunno I think some of them take their jobs to seriously................... I havent flown with any IAH crews so I not sure what its like to fly with em but im sure I will sooner or later

I dunno what Bedford and Heller sold to CAL, but Chautauqua seemed destined to fail putting a new fleet type in the CRJ-200 on routes like IAH-RIC/ORF/MSP.

Chautauqua set themselves up for failure by trying to add a completely new fleet type on the cheap without type-experienced mechanics (hence the multiple IDG failures due to lack of oil I've been told about by friends there), skimping on crew training and recruitment, outstation basing, and general biting off way more than they could realistically chew at Purdue Road in the last 12-18 months.

Folks at XJT (Saab, for example) seem to be wanting CHQ to fail and get the boot from CAL...and while I kinda understand the sentiment, the pilots didn't make that deal, RAH and CAL management did. Direct your vitriol elsewhere...

Not everyone at XJT wants CHQ to completely fail. I, for one, am happy they came in and gave us the chance to operate elsewhere. It's kinda nice to be based on the west coast now, and not have to deal with that miserable commute from SFO to IAH anymore. More power to the pilot group for jumping head first into this too... it's not easy getting dumped into enemy territory without a very good plan by management.

Nice flame bait Saab.

I "heard" that no such thing happened with CHQ/CAL. The version I heard was that CAL basically capped CHQ's flying at current levels, no expansion right now. Giving them time to get some of their operational difficulties straightned out brfore moving forward.

And to the previous poster, those CRJ's didn't sit in the desert for 3 years. I-Air went out in the beginning of 2006. SOME planes were parked prior to that. By your calender, those planes would have been parked sometime around 2003. Not the case.

I've been told that CHQ didn't want the CRJ's. Still doesn't. That they had to get them for a few reasons. One being there were no ERJ's available and #2 that Continental requested them because they found people favor 2x2 seating. The routes they want to cover and lack of gates are enough to give anyone the short end of the stick regardless of what they were flying. Could be the same bestfriend's college roomate as the last guy though.

They were banking on XJT giving up those 69 planes, weren't they???

Last time I checked, Embraer is still making new E145s...they might not have found 145s at a price they wanted but thats not to say there weren't any available...

I'm still trying to figure out how toiletduck got that animated gif to work...

Actually they are making Legacy jets and 170's right now.

There were banking on XJT giving those planes back. That is what I meant when I said XJT sort of faked out Continental and CHQ, or at least surprised them.

As for EMB-145s, no -- the production line is closed. Apparently XJT is the only carrier that can get it back open again, unless someone else placed a large order for XRs or something.

It doesn't matter though; there will be plenty of ERJs in the desert in a few years.

Yes...but not Legacies and E-Jets exclusively.

Embraer is still manufacturing new 145s...at least according to Embraer's website which says the firm-order backlog for 145s is 53 airframes. In fact, they delivered a brand-spanking-new 145 to the Nigerian government just this past month.

I really dont want CHQ to fail per se, I just want Larry to realize that he didnt make the smartest decision..............dont worry just wait until COLGAN comes into EWR with a new fleet type..............that my friends will be a disaster

I really don't see that happening. CEO's are not fond of admitting that they screwed up or made a bad decision.

I believe they are still making 145s....just not in Brazil. They built another plant in China(I believe) to meet the demands of that growing market.

So wait for 53 aircraft to get built, or start flying now. I personally wished they had waited, done a lil' planning beyond "Hey, this looks fun" and gone down there with a lil' more preparation instead of having crews trying to play ops agent and get everyone to do what we need just to get outta the gate even close to on-time. The guys who have spent some time down in IAH know what I mean...

And some of those airplanes have been sitting a lot longer than 2006. And by my count, 2007 - 3 years is middle of 2004.

Middle of 2004, independence had just started (June 16, 2004) and didn't have any CRJ's parked in the desert... First furloughs were November of 04.

Damn...off by 5 months. Beat's 1.5 years....

Saab- I know you mean well but-

Shut the *uck up you little punk. I'd like to see XJT start growing again.

easy easy fella haha, any word on DELTA yet, how was the interview???

Don't be surprised if Bedford trades CRJ's for ERJ-170's on the CAL side.

He's ALREADY talking about it.

Glad to hear that XJT is doing well... still trying to get used to the paint-scheme.

Wouldn't that be a kick in the nuts for Xjet. Go ahead Slaab, make your wise crack about the 170 pay at Republic. This is about where you do that, isn't it?

Well, more power to Bedford if he can get CAL to go around their scope clause and allow anything bigger than 50 seats. A lot of the CAL pilots are still bitter that we "took their jet flying", so I'll give a snowball a better chance in hell than kitty operating 170s on the CAL side.