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Old 06-08-2007 | 06:35 AM
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I am a new guy here so please bear with me.

I only have 220TT/50ME, so I am a fair distance away from a job. I dont even want to think about a jet right now, even with some hiring times being so low. I also want to finish my degree before I go, which is about a year and a half away. In the meantime I will do the CFI thing just like everyone else.

My questions is this: Where do you see XJet, AWAC, Skywest, AE, and others in about a year and a half? I know the airline industry is fragile, but if hiring stay somewhat the same over the next year or so, will that bring the qualified pilot shortage up?

Also, my girlfriend lives in PHL and I would hopefully like to be based there or possibly JFK, EWR, or LGA. Is this possible being a Junior FO? The companies I have looked at so far are the ones mentioned above. Is there anyone else I missed.

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Old 06-08-2007 | 07:14 AM
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Welcome!

AWAC's contract with Airways is good until 2015, and unless something MAJOR changes there will be a domicile in PHL until then. After that? Well...there may not be an AWAC unless management gets its sh!t together and we can start getting new codeshares/larger aircraft, but that could be said for many contract small jet providers these days. We aren't growing right now and that is turning some folks away, but folks are leaving, staffing is getting to junior manning levels, and the junior upgrade is just under 3.5 years on property. We have the best FO pay in the 50 seat business (like saying your the lightest person at fat camp, I know...) and pretty good work rules. If you got hired and lived in PHL, you're quality of life would be good even on reserve.

Eagle isn't going anywhere, and is probably the single most stable small jet provider in terms of job security.

XJT? They have a very good contract and despite not growing any, movement is fairly quick there now. If you wanted Newark I'm sure you'd get it in an instant!

Skywest? One of the darling children right now, but I think their projected growth is scheduled to end later this year or early 2008, but I might be mistaken on that. First year pay blows but I understand you can get extremely high credit there, and all my friends working there really, really enjoy it.

I don't think you could go wrong with any of those choices, honestly. Keep working toward your degree, keep flying and building total/multi time, and good luck getting hired! If you start shooting out resumes at the end of this summer you might be surprised how quickly you get called for an interview...
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Old 06-08-2007 | 07:26 AM
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Originally Posted by BoilerUP

If you start shooting out resumes at the end of this summer you might be surprised how quickly you get called for an interview...
Really? I don't know if I am ready for that or not. It would be nice, but I dont think I am that close to the mins for the companies I would like to work for. I also would like to finish my degree too, but I have people telling me if I got a job I should go for it. I really hate to have a degree from the University of Phoenix; if you know what I am sayin.
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Old 06-08-2007 | 08:17 AM
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Stick with school! If you keep instructing untill graduation and have that degree in hand you will look much more promising to future employers. I know its tempting to take that job with everything going on right now, but in the long run you'll be glad you waited. Good Luck!
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Old 06-08-2007 | 08:26 AM
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Nice Boiler well stated...PHL livin the dream...its true it can happen VERY fast and with the way things are going by the end of the summer they may just be looking for a pvt cert.
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Old 06-08-2007 | 08:49 AM
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Originally Posted by skillet13
Stick with school! If you keep instructing untill graduation and have that degree in hand you will look much more promising to future employers. I know its tempting to take that job with everything going on right now, but in the long run you'll be glad you waited. Good Luck!
that is one badass AVATAR you have, how did you get a picture of me shooting at a GOJET PILOT hehe j/k
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Old 06-08-2007 | 08:57 AM
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that is one badass AVATAR you have, how did you get a picture of me shooting at a GOJET PILOT hehe j/k

Got this off an RAH training powerpoint when I interned with them. Now I'm entering indoc next week! Seen you on here quite a bit over the last couple months........wait, have you lost weight?!
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Old 06-08-2007 | 09:02 AM
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"2" on sticking with school. Seniority may be everything, but when your operatio goes tits up, it sure is nice to have a real degree to fall back on if need be. BTDT.
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Old 06-08-2007 | 09:03 AM
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Originally Posted by SAABaroowski
that is one badass AVATAR you have, how did you get a picture of me shooting at a GOJET PILOT hehe j/k

Chimps with guns, can't go wrong there. Larger Version
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Old 06-08-2007 | 09:26 AM
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Originally Posted by skillet13
Stick with school! If you keep instructing untill graduation and have that degree in hand you will look much more promising to future employers. I know its tempting to take that job with everything going on right now, but in the long run you'll be glad you waited. Good Luck!
Thats what I was thinkin
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