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SabineFlyer 12-24-2021 08:08 AM

Best travel privileges: 9E, RPA, or AA WO's?
 
While I realize this has been debated ad nauseam in the past, things are always changing. At present, what regional airline offers the best & easiest non-rev travel options for pilots and their families: AA WO'S, Endeavor, or Republic?

jbizon 12-24-2021 08:21 AM


Originally Posted by SabineFlyer (Post 3341351)
While I realize this has been debated ad nauseam in the past, things are always changing. At present, what regional airline offers the best & easiest non-rev travel options for pilots and their families: AA WO'S, Endeavor, or Republic?

AA WO's hands down.

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ArmyRWP2018 12-24-2021 08:32 AM


Originally Posted by jbizon (Post 3341365)
AA WO's hands down.

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Do consider which company will allow you a schedule to use them….

jbizon 12-24-2021 08:33 AM


Originally Posted by ArmyRWP2018 (Post 3341378)
Do consider which company will allow you a schedule to use them….

Good point! PSA line holders.

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Swakid8 12-24-2021 08:57 AM

AA WOs….. That’s the only I missed when I left….

ninerdriver 12-24-2021 09:22 AM

Hard to argue with the AA WOs on this one. 9E is better than it was five years ago, but we're still always behind every Delta employee. When you're junior, that even applies on your own metal.

ZeroTT 12-24-2021 09:30 AM


Originally Posted by jbizon (Post 3341365)
AA WO's hands down.

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1) 100% true
2) why? You get the exact same travel privileges as any American mainline employee. Priority for boarding is by time of check in, not seniority. So you can be a day one PSA first officer ahead of a triple 7 captain for first class

jbizon 12-24-2021 09:55 AM


Originally Posted by ZeroTT (Post 3341454)
1) 100% true

2) why? You get the exact same travel privileges as any American mainline employee. Priority for boarding is by time of check in, not seniority. So you can be a day one PSA first officer ahead of a triple 7 captain for first class

Because the more senior you are the better schedule you have so more time to use benefits. I was responding to another question here. AA WO pilots get priority over the jumpseat on any other WO carrier above Main line pilots which helps commuters a lot.

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LoneStar32 12-24-2021 03:08 PM


Originally Posted by SabineFlyer (Post 3341351)
While I realize this has been debated ad nauseam in the past, things are always changing. At present, what regional airline offers the best & easiest non-rev travel options for pilots and their families: AA WO'S, Endeavor, or Republic?

Nothing has changed over the past few years that I am aware of. Therefore, all the old dick measuring threads are still valid.

Macchi30 12-24-2021 05:14 PM

what about when you factor in ZED?

ZeroTT 12-25-2021 05:11 AM


Originally Posted by Macchi30 (Post 3341652)
what about when you factor in ZED?

if zed elsewhere is anything like zed at AA… not something to worry about. It can be useful, especially outside the US… but you are absolute bottom barrel of the boarding list

Excargodog 12-25-2021 08:18 AM

In today’s hiring environment at the majors, there is a lot to be said for not even worrying about regional travel privileges, just flying your butt off, and getting a major seniority number a hundred more senior than you otherwise would have if you’d stayed an extra three months at the regional. Never in your flying career will 121 hours in your logbook be more valuable to you than they are today.

At the next level it’s seniority number that gives you the great schedules, best vacations, and most soft time, not memories of a week in Cancun when you were a regional FO.

Bike Handles 12-25-2021 05:04 PM


Originally Posted by Excargodog (Post 3341813)
In today’s hiring environment at the majors, there is a lot to be said for not even worrying about regional travel privileges, just flying your butt off, and getting a major seniority number a hundred more senior than you otherwise would have if you’d stayed an extra three months at the regional. Never in your flying career will 121 hours in your logbook be more valuable to you than they are today.

At the next level it’s seniority number that gives you the great schedules, best vacations, and most soft time, not memories of a week in Cancun when you were a regional FO.

Exactly. Foot on the gas until you’re where you want to be. And even then, until you’re off probation you’re likely still flooring it.

BravoTango 12-25-2021 06:46 PM


Originally Posted by jbizon (Post 3341365)
AA WO's hands down.

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Disagree. I’d take slightly lower priority to get employee privileges at all three legacies, AA, DL, UA. Gets you everywhere with often multiple options. At Republic every pilot is eligible for all three regardless of base (unlike Skywest).


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MidsizeSUV 12-26-2021 06:38 AM


Originally Posted by BravoTango (Post 3342007)
Disagree. I’d take slightly lower priority to get employee privileges at all three legacies, AA, DL, UA. Gets you everywhere with often multiple options. At Republic every pilot is eligible for all three regardless of base (unlike Skywest).

Enjoy paying for that lower priority. As a crew member you can jumpseat on other carriers anyway, so why would it matter that you have close to the lowest priority on all 3?

SoFloFlyer 12-26-2021 09:05 AM


Originally Posted by MidsizeSUV (Post 3342118)
Enjoy paying for that lower priority. As a crew member you can jumpseat on other carriers anyway, so why would it matter that you have close to the lowest priority on all 3?

More options and a significant other can’t and wouldn’t want to ride the JS in the cockpit? I’d assume that it’s a pretty safe bet that unless you travel on Christmas (or another major holiday) 1 of the 3 carriers would get you to where you’d want to go

MidsizeSUV 12-26-2021 10:57 AM


Originally Posted by SoFloFlyer (Post 3342179)
More options and a significant other can’t and wouldn’t want to ride the JS in the cockpit? I’d assume that it’s a pretty safe bet that unless you travel on Christmas (or another major holiday) 1 of the 3 carriers would get you to where you’d want to go

If somebody wants to base their decision on which regional to work for based on travel benefits for their significant other, then good luck to them.

SoFloFlyer 12-26-2021 11:06 AM


Originally Posted by MidsizeSUV (Post 3342213)
If somebody wants to base their decision on which regional to work for based on travel benefits for their significant other, then good luck to them.

Who said anything about working for a regional based off travel benefits? There’s so much more to look at other than travel benefits. All things being equal at the different carriers, I’d take RPA. It’s not perfect, but what is?

LoneStar32 12-26-2021 12:01 PM


Originally Posted by SoFloFlyer (Post 3342179)
More options and a significant other can’t and wouldn’t want to ride the JS in the cockpit? I’d assume that it’s a pretty safe bet that unless you travel on Christmas (or another major holiday) 1 of the 3 carriers would get you to where you’d want to go

Having three options is the bees knees. You almost have infinant options to get from point a to b. I can see why it be nice for the WOs but to say their non revs blows Republics away is foolish at best. Going to Vegas a few weeks ago I literally had 100 different options through the day through the three airlines and connecting through different cities.
I choose the best most easiest option that had a high chances of sitting first class. It worked out great.

ZeroTT 12-26-2021 12:56 PM

AA WO can zed on DL/UA at nearty the same priority as republic.

SoFloFlyer 12-26-2021 01:15 PM


Originally Posted by LoneStar32 (Post 3342238)
Having three options is the bees knees. You almost have infinant options to get from point a to b. I can see why it be nice for the WOs but to say their non revs blows Republics away is foolish at best. Going to Vegas a few weeks ago I literally had 100 different options through the day through the three airlines and connecting through different cities.
I choose the best most easiest option that had a high chances of sitting first class. It worked out great.

Boom! Rest my case. Thanks for chiming in, LoneStar32

BravoTango 12-26-2021 01:18 PM


Originally Posted by SoFloFlyer (Post 3342262)
Boom! Rest my case. Thanks for chiming in, LoneStar32


Yep. They don’t get it.


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LoneStar32 12-26-2021 05:09 PM


Originally Posted by ZeroTT (Post 3342258)
AA WO can zed on DL/UA at nearty the same priority as republic.

Nearly? Zed?

lol, that's cute

JayBee 12-26-2021 06:45 PM

Asking which has the best travel privelages is like asking which hooker has the best herpes.

SoFloFlyer 12-26-2021 08:11 PM


Originally Posted by JayBee (Post 3342398)
Asking which has the best travel privelages is like asking which hooker has the best herpes.

He hey hey, something for everyone out there, okay?

Swakid8 12-27-2021 07:36 AM


Originally Posted by LoneStar32 (Post 3342238)
Having three options is the bees knees. You almost have infinant options to get from point a to b. I can see why it be nice for the WOs but to say their non revs blows Republics away is foolish at best. Going to Vegas a few weeks ago I literally had 100 different options through the day through the three airlines and connecting through different cities.
I choose the best most easiest option that had a high chances of sitting first class. It worked out great.

You act as if WO folks don’t have tons of options either when they really do….

Sure you had some great luck with loads out of Vegas for a particular day. But I’ll rather take mainline priority of the WOs based on time of check in over having multiple options at a lower priority on each carrier.

When loads get tight, and they do. Then odds are improved having mainline priority with the earliest check in time with a jumpseat as my backup option. Usually when loads are tight out of a city, it’s going to be tight for multiple carriers not just a single carrier because there is a reason why those loads are tight.

Multiple times I’ve seen AACs have to scramble to their next options when loads got tight and sure enough I knew I was getting on…. Sorry, you aren’t going to beat that.

It’s not like we (I include everyone) can’t hop on UPS and FED Ex either (which I’ve done before when weather rolls in and cancels the next day morning flights and I need to be somewhere).

Then again, I no longer have skin in the game as my commute is positive space with hotels provided in base.

BigZ 12-27-2021 07:50 AM


Originally Posted by LoneStar32 (Post 3342238)
Having three options is the bees knees. You almost have infinant options to get from point a to b. I can see why it be nice for the WOs but to say their non revs blows Republics away is foolish at best. Going to Vegas a few weeks ago I literally had 100 different options through the day through the three airlines and connecting through different cities.
I choose the best most easiest option that had a high chances of sitting first class. It worked out great.

That's cute and all, but imagine a world where you don't need 100 options to make something happen.

ZeroTT 12-27-2021 12:38 PM

The biggest use for me and my family was premium international. 4 people, lay flat seats across an ocean multiple times. I don’t see that happening easily without mainline status

Macchi30 12-27-2021 02:19 PM


Originally Posted by ZeroTT (Post 3342755)
The biggest use for me and my family was premium international. 4 people, lay flat seats across an ocean multiple times. I don’t see that happening easily without mainline status

this is what I want in my life

ZeroTT 12-27-2021 02:37 PM


Originally Posted by Macchi30 (Post 3342810)
this is what I want in my life

Then you want PSA or Envoy.

SoFloFlyer 12-27-2021 03:02 PM


Originally Posted by ZeroTT (Post 3342821)
Then you want PSA or Envoy.

lol

filler

ZeroTT 12-27-2021 03:11 PM


Originally Posted by SoFloFlyer (Post 3342835)
lol

filler

thank you for your thoughtful and reasoned replies. They really contribute to the thread

SoFloFlyer 12-27-2021 03:30 PM


Originally Posted by ZeroTT (Post 3342840)
thank you for your thoughtful and reasoned replies. They really contribute to the thread

:)

filler

dera 12-27-2021 05:07 PM


Originally Posted by ZeroTT (Post 3342821)
Then you want PSA or Envoy.

Or Piedmont.

The only people claiming Republics and Skywests have better benefits because they "have benefits with all 3" are retards who have never used WO benefits.
It does not even compare. Not even close. AA WO all day long,.

BravoTango 12-27-2021 06:43 PM

Best travel privileges: 9E, RPA, or AA WO's?
 

Originally Posted by dera (Post 3342894)
Or Piedmont.

The only people claiming Republics and Skywests have better benefits because they "have benefits with all 3" are retards who have never used WO benefits.
It does not even compare. Not even close. AA WO all day long,.


The only folks who don’t get the power of having all three (and Skywest doesn’t give all three to all pilots btw) have never had it. Not all carriers even go everywhere. You wanna go to Japan? United, Africa? Maybe Delta. South America? Maybe AA, or whichever has more seats. And no they don’t fill up equally. There are days where you’ll never get through say ATL when CLT totally works. It’s great.

Honestly the status difference between wo and rpa is usually not a factor anyway. Mainline trumps both anyway, and we both beat offline, retiree, zed and so on.

But you know what, this is NOT the highest priority in picking a regional to fly for…


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ZeroTT 12-27-2021 06:55 PM


Originally Posted by BravoTango (Post 3342937)
Honestly the status difference between wo and rpa is usually not a factor anyway. Mainline trumps both anyway, and we both beat offline, retiree, zed and so

no, wo and mainline have exactly equal priority. No distinction at all. That’s the power. Day 1 at a WO you potentially can be at the absolute top of the list of a flight with 50 Nonrev’s listed

also republic goes below aa retirees and parents and doesn’t get d1 ( vacation passes). It’s a meaningful difference

SoFloFlyer 12-27-2021 08:37 PM


Originally Posted by dera (Post 3342894)
Or Piedmont.

The only people claiming Republics and Skywests have better benefits because they "have benefits with all 3" are retards who have never used WO benefits.
It does not even compare. Not even close. AA WO all day long,.

Now that dera arrived, it’s a party. AA WO koolaid is strong and dera is paying… *eyeroll*

Swakid8 12-28-2021 03:04 AM


Originally Posted by BravoTango (Post 3342937)
The only folks who don’t get the power of having all three (and Skywest doesn’t give all three to all pilots btw) have never had it. Not all carriers even go everywhere. You wanna go to Japan? United, Africa? Maybe Delta. South America? Maybe AA, or whichever has more seats. And no they don’t fill up equally. There are days where you’ll never get through say ATL when CLT totally works. It’s great.

Honestly the status difference between wo and rpa is usually not a factor anyway. Mainline trumps both anyway, and we both beat offline, retiree, zed and so on.

But you know what, this is NOT the highest priority in picking a regional to fly for…


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Thats just it though, but saying having multiple airlines at a lower status level (RPA, SKW) are better than the WOs. You are saying that they are better than main benefits. WOs get mainline benefits from Day1. Not some second tier level like the UA exclusives or Endeavor.

surely folks in this thread who work for RPA won’t start class at AA on day 1 thinking they will miss RPA travel benefits over AAs (holidays same as WOs).

Swakid8 12-28-2021 05:24 AM


Originally Posted by SoFloFlyer (Post 3342967)
Now that dera arrived, it’s a party. AA WO koolaid is strong and dera is paying… *eyeroll*

Dude, have you even flown a hour of 121 yet?

LoneStar32 12-28-2021 07:16 AM

See what I mean? It always becomes just another dick measuring contest especially when the WO weenies chime in. Very cute


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