Mesa FO 38k..



🍻 here’s to hoping my 5 million LGB coin takes off

Funny thing. Probably over half of those mayor pilots posting their W2 spent more time at the regionals, making less money than you.

This Data is good.

Especially for someone who stuck it out through Covid at the CFI level now looking to make the jump. I used this when I picked a regional and used the mainline one as motivation to gtfo of the regionals. That being said, had a good time at the regionals, it sucked we all know it but the people really made it bearable. From the FOs to the FAs everyone was in the same boat. If you show up to work p!ssed off at everyone you'll never be happy no matter where you go....

YX. 8 months (moved on) 4/5th yr CA

Earnings: 74k
Per diem: 4.7k
company paid 401k: 3k (pathetic)
5k Red flag (%200): +5k
Vaca Cash out: 10k

Gross YTD: 97k

Summer was really rough.. got worked all day everyday, lots of premium but no one was picking it up for legality and just plain burnt out. I burned outta the employee lot after my last flight here, I think my tire marks are still there.

Airline: 9E
Fleet: CRJ2(4 months) CRJ9 (8 months)
Year 2 FO
W2: $79k
Bonus/401K Company match: $2.4k
Block: 500 hrs

YX
Year 2 FO (on unpaid leave, only worked 9 months)
w2 - 60.2k (would have been on track to make 80k if I had worked the whole year)
401k - 1.8k
block - 655
commuter

Thanks to everyone posting. Interesting seeing the real numbers. Without trying to sound insulting, it looks like many of you could have picked up considerably more time, to the point of making 25-40k more? I'm not faulting anyone for not doing it (family first, didn't feel like it, have a 2nd job, etc), but pay increase opportunities were there, right?

Yes, there is always room to make more $$. I turned down an additional 15-20k worth of flying towards the end of the year to have more time off and spend time how I wanted to.

I had your same view when I wasn't in 121 yet. It's VERY easy to get burnt out flying 80+ block month after month in the airline world

I don't doubt it. Like I said, it was less talking down and more curious if people just prioritized other stuff.

Yeah at first premium is really fun, more money than you've ever made in a day. Then you get really picky and then you move on to a major and then i don't know what happens😝

You're not wrong. Especially if you WANT to pick up as much flying as you can. If this is what you want find a regional with very good soft pay rules and you'll make serious money (for a regional).

If I wasn't coming off of furlough at the beginning of this year I would have cleared 100k as a 2nd year FO.... easily.

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Just curious,

The highest 2nd yr pay rate at a regional I could find was 62 @ Endeavor . Even there, you have to do roughly 130 hours in credit every month to get close to 100k . That would need some pretty good soft pay/work rules to make that happen . Especially at a regional . Was just wondering which regional you are at that allows you to break 100k “easily” .

Can't speak for iceman, but at regionals with good soft rules, that can be done.

For someone senior enough to bid LCAs, get bought off every trip, and then pick up premium pay at 150%+, it's not hard. That person would work less to get paid a lot more.

For someone too junior for that yet senior enough to bid longer stretches off, it's harder, but doable. They work a lot more to get paid more.

For someone at a short-staffed regional, they just get junior manned a lot. They get paid more to get screwed out of their days off, but it's not hard to say yes when no isn't really an option.

Could have been done at yx if someone really worked it this year.

Block of 87 is paid at 125 percent

Practically the whole summer was at 200 percent

vacation buy back at a few thousand per week, don’t have remember the rate, since I didn’t participate :/

but essentially with all of that added up, if someone really played the game, they could have touched 100k at year 2, adding per diem and the 3k bonus. Straight pay might be tough.

Fair enough , I’m not far removed from the regionals . Only 3 years . Closest I ever came to 100k, was 80k in the left seat @ regional with definitely not good work rules . I also never tried to play the game, or pick up anything extra. I still don’t .

But it’s good to know that it’s possible and can be done at that level.

I'm at ZW. Summer months my lowest month was 140 credit 87 block. We signed an LOA this year giving 300% on a day of our choice when getting junior manned. Turned several 9 hour credit days into 27 hours.

I came off of furlough and had to requal, made it back to the line in April. Took it as easy as I could November and December.

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Would have never guessed something like that would be possible at Air Wisconsin.

Senior CAs definitely pushing 200k

Any junior captain in ZW that picked up extra flying from June to December and just worked till they’re dead could’ve made 80-90k in only 6 months.

2nd year FO @ edv...$65 an hr

Eligible for upgrade in March

Enjoyed reading this thread on the major side. This could have been a really good thread for soon-to-be regional pilots but it seems to have gotten thrown off the tracks early. Maturity is a sacred thing and goes a long way. Here’s my stats…

MQ
E75
Year 2 FO
Furloughed January - May (thank you CARES Act)
Training June - August
W2 - $50.9k
230 actual hours flown
Averaged 9-10 days off per month after training
Time split between reserve and line
In base

I think there is some new hire bonus money thrown in the W2. Company changed pay providers a couple of months ago so it’s difficult to figure out block, per diem, retirement, etc without spending a couple days hunting the depths of the internet.

I hope everyone has a lot better year. Good luck to all the new guys joining the regionals.

What regionals would you say have the best soft pay rules? The fact I’m hearing you can make 100k a year as a FO is music to my ears.

OH
CRJ
FO Y1 (April start)
35K W2
3% retirement $0 bonus
250 hours flown
On reserve so 11 days off sometimes 12 usually used about 15/mo only 1 day of hot reserve
Non-commuter do not pick up

what airline is OH?


republic. You could probably make closer to 100k at edv as well

OH = PSA also JIA

OH
CRJ 700/900
June 7th Start Date (no bonus, that started in the July classes)
W-2 = $39500
5% Roth IRA
122 Block
11 Days off a month (Reserve)
Live in base for now

I actually did a lot better than I thought. I accumulated a lot of Per Diem over 7 months as I didn’t relocate until middle of December. So I had rolling 24/7 Per diem for almost 5.5 months straight. I was also able to fly almost every single Red Flag Day (holiday pay) we had the last two months. Also, for this month I was used almost every day I was on call and I am about to break Min guarantee without the OT I picked up. Will equate to over $6k for the month of January; however, I only had 7 days off this month and I am shot. There’s money to be had but you have to work for it…

24/7 per diem? You get per diem if you don’t live in base?

Thanks, although neither of those have a DFW base. Also a pilot in my guard unit who flies for Republic told me on a recent deployment that he makes between 3-5k a month as a FO. But then again, he might not be working much since he seems to always pick up orders.

No regional currently will get you close to 100k JUST on mon guarantee alone. The question was, who has the soft pay and pay rate capable of making it happen!

Its not entirely unlikely to end up crediting 140-150 a month in the peak summer/holiday months at yx. And then 100-110 the rest of the year (but yes, you’ll be hustling). 130 hours on avg per month, plus per diem will get you just south of that figure at year 2/3 pay.

and yes unfortunately not too many options with dfw. Maybe skywest?

while in training in Dayton for Ground, CLT for Sims and then IOE I was getting 24/7 per diem. Once you had your relocation days you no longer got it; however, in between ground and sims when you go back home, which is considered your base during training, you don’t get per diem. So in training you’re away from home (base) you get per diem. After IOE I went 2 months before relocating so that was 24/7 as well. Does that makes sense at all all?

YX FO/CA
Mostly year 3 ($53.06) and year 4 ($54.12) pay, with a little over a month at year 4 CA ($97.19)
$65,174 gross
671 hours block (2 months not flying while in upgrade)
$6,753 per Diem on top of gross
Normal crappy regional 401k

Was living in base until upgrade. Will be back to no commuting sometime this year. 2 months in there are min guarantee during upgrade training. Summer was busy, averaging 12 days off and about 105-110 hours of credit. Otherwise I was doing 85ish hours of credit and 15-17 days off.

SkyWest
CRJ
Mostly year 4 CA
103,000
Block 600
Days worked- many
Live in base

9E
CA year 5/6
103/hour
~130,000
625-650 block
Had less than min days off by choice.
live in base

PSA Yr4 CA for 8 months

• $62k Commuter, never pick up open time. 4 months reserve line after furloughs min guarantee, 4 months line holder. 247 block hours

2 months MIL leave

• $12k got to hang out in Germany, who wouldn't?

2 months NK FO new hire pay

• $2k but worth every penny lost, no longer commuting

Congrats for getting out of there

Mil pilot? Got a guy or two in my unit who work for psa and are looking to get out as well but most are picking up yearly orders flying the 135.

2nd year Mesa FO

28k lol 🤦🏻‍♂️

dont mean to be rude, but did you know about the abysmal pay and context going in? If so, why’d you chose the place?

I did, and I was expected to upgrade within less than two years. (Thanks covid). Being based at home was the ultimate deciding factor… I did not what to commute, and I refuse to live in a crashpad. I’m not 18 years old!

not to mention, pre-Covid, 300% was pretty much the norm at Mesa.

but even the captain pay is junk, and “context” was a typo. I meant contract lol

again, not meaning to be a dick…just trying to figure out what motivates folks to go to a regional that’s at the bottom of the rankings across the board, aside from possibly being home based.

as for the 300%…sure those are nice, but I would bunch them in with bonuses. Can’t budget or rely on it, but it’s a nice cherry on top. However, it says volumes about management - they’re capable of paying more, but just chose not to