Regional End of Year Salary Thread 2021
 

The same thread is over on the Major forum, thought I'd post one here for the regionals since their measuring stick is much larger than ours.

The intent of this thread is to help people make informed decisions, especially of this magnitude. For those that don't like these kinds of threads please, just scroll right on by.

Here is the suggested format:

Airline
Fleet (if applicable)
Payscale year
W-2 wage
Retirement/Bonus
Block hours flown
Days worked
Commuter status

I'll go first.

ZW - Air Wisconsin
CRJ200
Furlough - January and February
Year 2 FO - March 1 - November 15
Year 3 FO - November 16 - December 31
W-2: $69,635.94
Retirement/Bonus: $4900, Company match: $4360
Block: 547
Credit: 816
Per Diem: $4275
NAFB: 99 (Reserve from April - June, Lineholder July - December)
In Base

Picked up several day trips that are not counted in my NAFB. I didn't go through my records to see how many. Less than 10 though.

This is going to be an interesting thread!

People.

This is a very easy way to out yourselves to your company.

Proceed with great caution.

Two things here, one is just change a couple of numbers if you’re that worried about it.

Two, don’t post things that would harm you if your identity is figured out. I would just assume that at some point it is. I know I could easily be identified, and have been by colleagues. Doesn’t bother me as I don’t post anything I wouldn’t say to the company or anyone in general.

Agreed. If you post FACTS and not “rumor mills” then your online reputation/posts can’t be questioned

While it is possible, I think highly unlikely that a airline is going to go after someone for posting their salary their personal salary information.

As long as you aren’t posting company sensitive information and saying/doing anything that is going to bring bad PR to the company or question ones professionalism. You should be fine, bear that in mind.

There is no reason they would, or a legal basis for it. None of us signed salary NDA's, all of our contracts are public record.

Where you could get in trouble is if your detailed salary info allows them to identify you, AND you have posted stuff previously (or at some future point) which the company doesn't like and violates their social media policy. Those policies are often pretty draconian these days.

Not a bad idea to modify your salary details just a bit to obscure your identity.

No disagreement there.

why isn’t this an issue on the majors forum? There is no disclaimer on that thread about concealing your identity.

Regionals are way smaller with historically way more draconian management. They always have a staffing issues to solve and naysayers don’t help.

so… easier to figure out who you are with the reason and will to do it. Harassment is the biggest risk, unless you’ve stated something really stupid in the past.

They are in no position to fire people for something as stupid as online posting.

Plus, didn’t you know, it’s not like there is a MASSIVE SURPLUS of regional guys in a business model with serious doubts to its viability.

This reminds me of Rick losing his mind over KCM threads in which what was said, was readily public knowledge and available for anyone to read about on a Govt website. OMG the HORROR!

Its been awhile and times have changed. 5 years ago my last year at AWAC. I was 4th year FO.

Probably $40-45K
CRJ-200
$5-6k Per Diem
I know we got 3% DC (essentially) + maybe 8% match
(Can’t recall what I put in + company match +3%) 🤷🏻‍♂️
Around 700 Block.

Calm down, folks.

If you don’t say stupid things on the internet the company has no reason to waste their time trying to figure out who you are…

That being said:

Airline: 9E
Fleet: CRJ9
Year 4 CA
W2: $119,650.00
Bonus/401K Company match: $4150.0
Block: 415 hrs
Days worked: 162
Live in base

Giving the best estimates I have based on excel. To those deterred by the previous posts this helps new hires make a decision to where they go, as financial incentives make a deal of a difference. Former FO at a shut down regional and glad to be back.

Started at half of the year mark PSA year 1 FO
-W2: $43,000
3 months training, 1 month and half on Min guarantee waiting on PRIA
-Per Diem: 3,900
-No new hire bonus included as I was not eligible
-Averaged 9 days off November and December to get the 200% holiday pay on days off, crediting north of 130 hours for November with 60 block, total block since start is 160 hours.

1. How was psa training? I heard it is difficult and you are bound to have one failure in Your Pria from psa training initial

2. What do you mean "waiting on Pria"?

3. So you are not eligible for the 15k new hire bonus, 30k upgrade, 70k flow?

because they have strong unions

We have that discussion every year there. But most major pilots have been around long enough to know better.

If you never post anything that might offend your employer (including future employers) you don't need to conceal your identity here. Some people actually use their real name as their UN here.

Yes, but...

Airlines (most large companies) tend to have very detailed policies about social media, media, etc use by employees and they usually state "up to and including termination". The union might save you, but it might not. Most pilot disciplinary matters top out at the CP level... social media gaffes can get the attention of top execs and the union can't always save you.

Public speech about or related to your employer should be considered a potential third rail.


Also... word to the wise: ALL of the social media related terminations which I have personal knowledge of involved the aggravating circumstance of posting on the web from the cockpit during block. The company owns that network, and they can throw the FARs and Safety at you too.

All good points

there’s a significant difference between regional and major union representation.

seat belts won’t help against an 18 wheeler but they still make a difference

You are being kinda vague when you claim that the same actions would get you in much less trouble at a major vs a regional because one has a strong union and the other doesn’t.

Give us a specific example of an offender getting in much less trouble, or no trouble at all, for a similar offense at a major vs a regional because of a weak union.

Not saying you are wrong, but Im just a bit skeptical at the dramatic contrast that you are painting.

That kid from Piedmont posted videos online criticizing other pilots and wasn’t fired (I think actually promoted). So the standard is pretty low for what they will tolerate being posted online

Depends on the airline and what you said - in general, if you wouldn’t say it to someone’s face in front the chief pilot. You probably shouldn’t post it online.

Post of the day. 'That kid' is now at AA.

3 pages in and only two regional salary posted. This didn’t age well.

He was fired, and then daddy at AA intervened and got him unfired.

So the standard is have daddies in high places.

Honestly, who wants to post. It's embarrassing.

Its helpful to see data, even if it’s deemed embarrassing. Give people an idea of what to expect while paying their dues. I get why people wouldn’t want to post though

Yeah the major salary thread is a great read for my daydreaming, but I was hoping this one would have taken off since I'm applying to the regionals

A realistic number for year 1 gross pay is 50-60k. Regional FOs who work hard probably topping out at 80-90k and some touching 100k if you know how to work the system.

Everyone flys a lot unless you bid reserve and our 401k programs suck.

That's basically it.

We are drastically under paid.

It’s too bad that over here at the kids table nobody is brave enough to post their info.

well, when the thread starts off with a mod saying you could get fired, it doesn’t encourage posting.

fake news. Mod didn’t say that. He said the opposite and actually encouraged posting.

Air Koryo
Year 88 FO
W2: -7346.47
After paying for my recurrent and contributing to the company disciplinary fund, actually not too bad this year.
Commute from DC

lmfao😄😄😄😄

filler

I think too many are afraid to realize they are being exploited.

Airlines don’t pay enough….

We're not even at the kids table, we're still in the playpen with full diapers. Someone please send help!

Exactly, too many people on here and especially on Reddit need to understand the compensation during their time at the regionals to properly understand the risks of flying as a career.

Figure regional first officer you make 50-60K.

You might be able to game the system and work a ton of OT to get your pay into the 90’s… but if you have a spouse that will speed up the AIDS divorce as they realize you’re now literally never home and you’ll end up with 35-40K after you split everything, so factor that in.

Captains prob make 90-150K.

I’m not a regional pilot, but believe this to be accurate. Someone feel free to chime in if I’m way off

Then again, you are not like I was when I was in my crib with a full diaper. I found a source of material with which I could finger paint my crib. I also found if I flung it on the walls of my room it made a good mark. Wonder what that says about me. And my parents who kept telling the story to guests, as I was growing up.