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Excargodog 03-11-2022 10:50 AM


Originally Posted by Green Needles (Post 3387193)
If they were concerned about their flying, they never should have given it up in the first place.


Bankruptcies can void CBAs and you get what the judge lets you keep. You saw how hard the UAL pilots fought against more 76 pax jets.

Wilfortina 03-11-2022 11:50 AM


Originally Posted by highfarfast (Post 3387029)
Yes. You are. The intent of the statement is that they dont care about you.

not quite…bringing all the flying in house would be good for everybody. If the mainline unions gave up scope to save the regionals and got pay bumps to do it, everyone would say “they’re jerks and only care about themselves!” But if they don’t help save the regionals, then “they only care about themselves!”

highfarfast 03-11-2022 12:30 PM


Originally Posted by Wilfortina (Post 3387216)
not quite…bringing all the flying in house would be good for everybody. If the mainline unions gave up scope to save the regionals and got pay bumps to do it, everyone would say “they’re jerks and only care about themselves!” But if they don’t help save the regionals, then “they only care about themselves!”

I don't see how that disputes what I said.

rickair7777 03-11-2022 01:15 PM

OO just pulled out of 29 cities, citing pilot shortage.

https://www.wandtv.com/news/skywest-...3bc1eadb8.html

IamEssential 03-11-2022 01:40 PM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 3387263)
OO just pulled out of 29 cities, citing pilot pay shortage.

https://www.wandtv.com/news/skywest-...3bc1eadb8.html

Fixed it to reflect the truth

amcnd 03-11-2022 02:26 PM

SkyWest in the last 4 years has hired a ton of mid 20’s guys and gals.. Nothing is going to keep them for going to a major or LLC… whats hurting OO is the senior guys bailing at the same time…This is the issue they need to fix.. OO has no shortage of people wanting in the door..

rickair7777 03-11-2022 02:31 PM


Originally Posted by amcnd (Post 3387307)
SkyWest in the last 4 years has hired a ton of mid 20’s guys and gals.. Nothing is going to keep them for going to a major or LLC… whats hurting OO is the senior guys bailing at the same time…This is the issue they need to fix.. OO has no shortage of people wanting in the door..

Don't think they can... I helped *another* 15+ year guy leave OO this week. Third one in the last month.

Putin OTH might be able to fix it, for a while at least.

Excargodog 03-11-2022 02:33 PM


Originally Posted by amcnd (Post 3387307)
SkyWest in the last 4 years has hired a ton of mid 20’s guys and gals.. Nothing is going to keep them for going to a major or LLC… whats hurting OO is the senior guys bailing at the same time…This is the issue they need to fix..

It’s STILL a queuing problem. When people can go to the majors without sitting in the left seat long enough to give the average FO sticking around the 1000 hers of SIC they need to be upgrade eligible, the flying can ONLY contract, because you are left seat limited.

Wilfortina 03-11-2022 04:24 PM


Originally Posted by highfarfast (Post 3387236)
I don't see how that disputes what I said.

I’m not disputing it, but pointing out that both interests happen to align

threeighteen 03-12-2022 08:16 PM


Originally Posted by IamEssential (Post 3387276)
Fixed it to reflect the truth

Honestly the pay at OO would have been fine if there was some amount of schedule flexibility. However schedules and schedule flexibility seemed to get worse and worse every year despite seniority getting better.


Originally Posted by Excargodog (Post 3387313)
It’s STILL a queuing problem. When people can go to the majors without sitting in the left seat long enough to give the average FO sticking around the 1000 hers of SIC they need to be upgrade eligible, the flying can ONLY contract, because you are left seat limited.

truth.


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