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Old 06-18-2007, 09:38 AM
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I was just wondering with this pilot shortage how many of you have moved on to greener pastures?
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Old 06-18-2007, 03:25 PM
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I was just wondering with this pilot shortage how many of you have moved on to greener pastures?
The pilot shortage only exists at the regional entry level. Major jobs are still very hard to come by. At DAL, you need a strong internal connection or significant military flying experience.
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The pilot shortage only exists at the regional entry level. Major jobs are still very hard to come by. At DAL, you need a strong internal connection or significant military flying experience.
yes and no, a guy here at pinnacle got on there. doesn't know anyone, and was never in military.. just sent in his application, got a call, interviewed, and got the job. same with guys at cal, and sw. a captain i flew with 3 months ago only had one connection there at southwest. it was a buddy of his that had just started ground school, and he was a 9e captain. we had an f.o. from here get hired at cal. so don't think that the majors are hard to come by. if that were the truth we wouldn't have a vacancy for 40 captains all based on attrition. ask any one here who has access to the company message board and it seems like every day someone has moved on to greener pasteurs and is saying good bye. now is it harder to come by than an rj job in the right seat... YES.. anyone can get in the right seat of an rj as long as you are breathing...
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yes and no, a guy here at pinnacle got on there. doesn't know anyone, and was never in military.. just sent in his application, got a call, interviewed, and got the job. same with guys at cal, and sw. a captain i flew with 3 months ago only had one connection there at southwest. it was a buddy of his that had just started ground school, and he was a 9e captain. we had an f.o. from here get hired at cal. so don't think that the majors are hard to come by. if that were the truth we wouldn't have a vacancy for 40 captains all based on attrition. ask any one here who has access to the company message board and it seems like every day someone has moved on to greener pasteurs and is saying good bye. now is it harder to come by than an rj job in the right seat... YES.. anyone can get in the right seat of an rj as long as you are breathing...
Major jobs are easier to come by if you know someone. That FO who went to CAL didn't just submit his resume online and wait for a call he had to have known somebody.

You can get called by SWA with minimal connections, but you still have to get by their interview...talk to 22 guys, hire three...I wouldn't exactly call that easy either. Lucky maybe, but not easy.

Delta has received 8000 applications since January...they hire what 30-40/month? Not really good odds.

I just don't like to hear indiscriminate talk about a "pilot shortage"....that kind of talk is dangerous, some kid probably read that post and filled out his ERAU loan application tonight Five years from now he'll be a wet commercial w/300 hours, ready and willing to help JO undercut YOUR job.
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Major jobs are easier to come by if you know someone. That FO who went to CAL didn't just submit his resume online and wait for a call he had to have known somebody.

You can get called by SWA with minimal connections, but you still have to get by their interview...talk to 22 guys, hire three...I wouldn't exactly call that easy either. Lucky maybe, but not easy.

Delta has received 8000 applications since January...they hire what 30-40/month? Not really good odds.

I just don't like to hear indiscriminate talk about a "pilot shortage"....that kind of talk is dangerous, some kid probably read that post and filled out his ERAU loan application tonight Five years from now he'll be a wet commercial w/300 hours, ready and willing to help JO undercut YOUR job.
yeah i agree with this. its not any easier to get the job, but times have changed from when delta was where retired airforce pilots went to finish off their careers. and no there is not a pilot shortage for the majors. i will say there is one for the regionals though. i mean when there is a 5000 dollar signon bonus for someone with a current crj rating, who do you think that is really for?? it is for the guy alredy working at a regional since that is pretty much the only place you can get one, aside from buying one yourself.. so the thing is the regionals are just poaching from other regionals. hopefully pretty soon they will be all poached out and actually have to provide a good qol and pay to give guys incintive to come and work. my flight school went from 900 students when i was instructing, to about 500 now a'days. i really think that the airline business has lost a lot of its appeal.. anyone who was thinking about being a pilot, and then saw the nwa guys pickiting saying the took a 43 percent pay cut, probably thought twice about it.
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