hey the world sucks sometimes. i hope that guy in your class was kidding. if not he's an idiot. I don't doubt that things still occur that have creepy racists overtones. Hiring a 25 year old women with no jet pic when a man could never get hired with the same quals won't help to fix that! (may actually increase animosity) If it makes you feel better i get mistaken for a skycap all the time and I'm so white you need shades to look at me directly in the sunshine.

 

Yeah I was about to say something about it too. Cars is a pixar movie, right? That's a friendly C-5 you have there. If all planes were so happy...

 

LOL ok Deez.. Ill be sure to keep my shades on and look out for you.....

 

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I am sorry 60 years ago that airmen who defended our country in WWII could not get a job. However, that is not my fault, nor is it anyone still alive today's fault.

I think it's interesting the liberals hate segregation and will fight tooth and nail to NOT classify people by race...but then support programs such as affirmative action which...um...classify people by race. If affirmative action was based on MERIT or FINANCIAL NEED than I'd be all for it. But helping out a poor black kid over a poor white kid just because one is black is still racist. And screwing us over doesn't make up for any wrong-doings in the past.

I'm all for "If you can fly it...have at it" I could careless if you're black, white, red, green, orange, or yellow. You could be a midget transvestite Eskimo for all I care. If you can do the job, rock and roll. I do have a problem sitting at the regional level while minorities/women get the fast track because 20, 30, 40, or 50 years ago some other women and minorities got the shaft. I'm sorry that happened...but again...not my fault.

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You are totally Missing the point but Oh well....

 

Apparently. I don't want to get too far off topic, but after re-reading your post, I still fail to see how giving a female or black pilot a leg up over a white male does anything to fix the wrongs of the past. All it does is repeat them. I also understand that you quoted some statistics on the number of white males compared to females or minorities in aviation. I think it's ludacris to try and staff an airline based on the amount of miniorities in the total US workforce. What's more likely...US Airlines are trying to hold down miniorities and females...or miniorities and females are interested in careers other than aviation? I'm not saying this is a "White Man's World" (cuz that's f&%*ing ignorant) but is it too much to believe that maybe...just maybe...there's not that many females that really want to be pilots?

P.S. - This topic usually gets locked up quicker than a pedophile at the National Spelling Bee.

 

You are still not getting the point, but I dont know you and you dont know me, nor have you walked a Kilometer in my shoes so I dont expect you to understand FYI this was not just about females but about minorities in general
.. with that said I rest my case and you are free to vent or rant or what ever you want the stats I quoted are taken from the Air Force and the Federal Government not just some number I just made up.

 

Personally I don't think color or sex matters at all. Everyone knows of some exception walking around. My bud just got hired as an FO at Republic while below the mins on multi. No resume walk in or anything like that. My flight instructor from Zimbabwe was hired to NetJets with 1000hrs SIC jet and 4000hrs total time. My other CFI was hired with 700PIC jet to Continental flying a 737 and he's white. It's just a crap shoot however people seem to think the only reason someone that isn't like them, either sex or race, was hired is because of their difference.

The great thing about aviation is that it caters to all equally. I don't care if you're white, black, brown, blue, green, male, or female you have to meet the same PTS standards as everyone else. A fed doesn't care.

Affirmative action wasn't created to "give" more jobs to women or minorities. It was designed to simply make sure they had all the same opportunities to be hired. If african americans count for 12% of the population in the US then there is no reason why an industry should not have 12% of it's workers african american unless they simply weren't qualified.

 

One more thing.. if you think that the minority is a treat to you getting hired by a major.. look at the US census stats....Only
140 out of 124,825, or about 0.1 percent of the pilot population in the U.S., according to 2002 census data are african american females

There were 1,925 black male pilots, or 1.5 percent. I dont think you should worry,

 

I could not agree with you more TD..