EMB 170/190 Excuse to pay less
06-22-2007 | 07:20 AM
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EMB 170/190 Excuse to pay less
I have friends working on these airplanes and they are very proud of it but yet they fail to notice that they make the same amount of money that a 50 seat jet pilots do. Since when the 100 seat jet is called a rejonal jet? It occurs to me that 737-300 seats 124 seats and yet their pilots don't get payed $24 per hour. Calling EMB 190 a regional jet is just an excuse to rip us off....
06-22-2007 | 07:21 AM
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I have friends working on these airplanes and they are very proud of it but yet they fail to notice that they make the same amount of money that a 50 seat jet pilots do. Since when the 100 seat jet is called a rejonal jet? It occurs to me that 737-300 seats 124 seats and yet their pilots don't get payed $24 per hour. Calling EMB 190 a regional jet is just an excuse to rip us off....
06-22-2007 | 07:25 AM
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06-22-2007 | 07:50 AM
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First you have to look at how the government defines a regional airline.
A U.S. airline's rank is determined by the amount of revenue it generates.
Large regionals - These are scheduled carriers with $20-million to $100-million in annual revenue. They operate aircraft that can accommodate more than 60 passengers. [NOTE: No upper limit on # of seats. Air Tran, American Eagle, Comair, Mesa, Express Jet, Sky West and others are (by government definition) National Airlines - not Regional.]
Medium regionals - These airlines operate on a smaller scale, with operating revenues of under $20-million, and often use only small aircraft.
Small regionals - These airlines don't have a set revenue definition, but are usually referred to as "commuter airlines." They use small aircraft with less than 61 seats.
Regional aircraft are so defined by the manufacturer. (ERJ, CRJ, etc.)
A U.S. airline's rank is determined by the amount of revenue it generates.
Large regionals - These are scheduled carriers with $20-million to $100-million in annual revenue. They operate aircraft that can accommodate more than 60 passengers. [NOTE: No upper limit on # of seats. Air Tran, American Eagle, Comair, Mesa, Express Jet, Sky West and others are (by government definition) National Airlines - not Regional.]
Medium regionals - These airlines operate on a smaller scale, with operating revenues of under $20-million, and often use only small aircraft.
Small regionals - These airlines don't have a set revenue definition, but are usually referred to as "commuter airlines." They use small aircraft with less than 61 seats.
Regional aircraft are so defined by the manufacturer. (ERJ, CRJ, etc.)
06-22-2007 | 09:33 AM
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First you have to look at how the government defines a regional airline.
A U.S. airline's rank is determined by the amount of revenue it generates.
Large regionals - These are scheduled carriers with $20-million to $100-million in annual revenue. They operate aircraft that can accommodate more than 60 passengers. [NOTE: No upper limit on # of seats. Air Tran, American Eagle, Comair, Mesa, Express Jet, Sky West and others are (by government definition) National Airlines - not Regional.]
Medium regionals - These airlines operate on a smaller scale, with operating revenues of under $20-million, and often use only small aircraft.
Small regionals - These airlines don't have a set revenue definition, but are usually referred to as "commuter airlines." They use small aircraft with less than 61 seats.
Regional aircraft are so defined by the manufacturer. (ERJ, CRJ, etc.)
A U.S. airline's rank is determined by the amount of revenue it generates.
Large regionals - These are scheduled carriers with $20-million to $100-million in annual revenue. They operate aircraft that can accommodate more than 60 passengers. [NOTE: No upper limit on # of seats. Air Tran, American Eagle, Comair, Mesa, Express Jet, Sky West and others are (by government definition) National Airlines - not Regional.]
Medium regionals - These airlines operate on a smaller scale, with operating revenues of under $20-million, and often use only small aircraft.
Small regionals - These airlines don't have a set revenue definition, but are usually referred to as "commuter airlines." They use small aircraft with less than 61 seats.
Regional aircraft are so defined by the manufacturer. (ERJ, CRJ, etc.)
06-22-2007 | 09:40 AM
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I have friends working on these airplanes and they are very proud of it but yet they fail to notice that they make the same amount of money that a 50 seat jet pilots do. Since when the 100 seat jet is called a rejonal jet? It occurs to me that 737-300 seats 124 seats and yet their pilots don't get payed $24 per hour. Calling EMB 190 a regional jet is just an excuse to rip us off....
06-22-2007 | 10:12 AM
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Realizing that different groups have different definitions, what is the "everyone's accepted board definition" of regional, national and major? Might as well throw in legacy while we are at it.
06-22-2007 | 12:23 PM
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Not trying to be politically correct; trying to be factually correct. Educate me.
Realizing that different groups have different definitions, what is the "everyone's accepted board definition" of regional, national and major? Might as well throw in legacy while we are at it.
Realizing that different groups have different definitions, what is the "everyone's accepted board definition" of regional, national and major? Might as well throw in legacy while we are at it.
The government definitions don't take into account whether you sell your own tickets, but that is a key discerning factor for those who work in the industry. According to the Fed, Mesa is a major airline
I think these are more realistic definitions:Majors: There are several flavors, but they all sell their own tickets (or package service), and mostly fly larger aircraft...
-Legacy: Extensive international service and have been around a while, UAL, AA.
-National/LCC: Domestic only, SWA, JB
-Big cargo: UPS/FDX
Regionals: Contract, don't sell many or any tickets
-Jet Regionals: Fly RJ's (SKW, AWAC)
-Commuters: T-props only (Colgan, Big Sky)
ACMI are kind of their own category. Startups such as VA and Skybus are not worthy of recognition at this point (and hopefully never will be
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06-22-2007 | 01:08 PM
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Not trying to be politically correct; trying to be factually correct. Educate me.
Realizing that different groups have different definitions, what is the "everyone's accepted board definition" of regional, national and major? Might as well throw in legacy while we are at it.
Realizing that different groups have different definitions, what is the "everyone's accepted board definition" of regional, national and major? Might as well throw in legacy while we are at it.
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