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06-30-2007 | 08:45 AM
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From: A320/321 FO
It was all about Quality, not Quantity...
06-30-2007 | 08:58 AM
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I hate to say it but your grandma was HOTTTT no I don't know her but FA's back in the day were what i call today a dime piece.
06-30-2007 | 09:13 AM
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I wonder what todays sensitve, "they didn't give me a personalized training program" pilots would have thought about TWA training circa the 40's and 50's? I also wonder what the hot Stewardesses of that time would have thought of them too?
Definately born too late.
Definately born too late.
06-30-2007 | 09:35 AM
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From: 7ER B...whatever that means.
Too late
Well shoot, I guess we should all do our line checks in DC-3s with crusty old captains whose primary purpose is to fail each "young buck" that comes into their sights
. To be fair, just because things were done a certain way 50 years ago doesn't mean that it was the best way. Believe it or not, there have been advancements in training techniques, knowledge of learning and technology in the last half century.
The folks that described CX's FO training as "brutal" were regional captains that went over to be 747F FOs for CX. So they obviously know a thing or two about airline training cycles.
but isn't airline training supposed to be brutal? Hate to keep going back to TWA and my Grandpa in the 50's...but that is part of the mistique and exclusivty. It seperates pilots from Dentists, accountants, and bus drivers.
My Grandpa's first line check was in 1953 in a DC-3. The Check Airman was an OLD time T-A-T (forerunner airline to TWA) guy - seniority number in the single digits (and this was when TWA was the place). His comments walking to the airplane with Grandpa was "hope you haven't bought a house yet, you will probably flunk this test and be out of a job by this afternoon".
That seems like more pressure than CBT and "flawed" training system.
My Grandpa's first line check was in 1953 in a DC-3. The Check Airman was an OLD time T-A-T (forerunner airline to TWA) guy - seniority number in the single digits (and this was when TWA was the place). His comments walking to the airplane with Grandpa was "hope you haven't bought a house yet, you will probably flunk this test and be out of a job by this afternoon".
That seems like more pressure than CBT and "flawed" training system.
. To be fair, just because things were done a certain way 50 years ago doesn't mean that it was the best way. Believe it or not, there have been advancements in training techniques, knowledge of learning and technology in the last half century.The folks that described CX's FO training as "brutal" were regional captains that went over to be 747F FOs for CX. So they obviously know a thing or two about airline training cycles.
06-30-2007 | 09:40 AM
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Yes - I do think all line checks should be in DC-3's, with mean, crusty captains!
Freezing - seriously, good post. I certainly understand and agree with advancements. That said, considering where the bar WAS, compared to where it is now, makes "brutal" a relative value.
As far as me being an A$$ Clown...you are right...too late!
Have a good one!
Freezing - seriously, good post. I certainly understand and agree with advancements. That said, considering where the bar WAS, compared to where it is now, makes "brutal" a relative value.
As far as me being an A$$ Clown...you are right...too late!
Have a good one!
06-30-2007 | 10:57 AM
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From: 7ER B...whatever that means.
Yes - I do think all line checks should be in DC-3's, with mean, crusty captains!
Freezing - seriously, good post. I certainly understand and agree with advancements. That said, considering where the bar WAS, compared to where it is now, makes "brutal" a relative value.
As far as me being an A$$ Clown...you are right...too late!
Have a good one!
Freezing - seriously, good post. I certainly understand and agree with advancements. That said, considering where the bar WAS, compared to where it is now, makes "brutal" a relative value.
As far as me being an A$$ Clown...you are right...too late!
Have a good one!
06-30-2007 | 12:46 PM
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I've read every single post pertaining to pilot754 on here.
I've also met him in Dayton, OH, and he did come out to lunch
at one time with my class...
Your only chance at a 121 company, a CRJ nonetheless, and you "resign" because of things "beyond your control".
Everything that happend to you was "beyond your control"
Stop sying that!!
I've also met him in Dayton, OH, and he did come out to lunch
at one time with my class...
Your only chance at a 121 company, a CRJ nonetheless, and you "resign" because of things "beyond your control".
Everything that happend to you was "beyond your control"
Stop sying that!!
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06-30-2007 | 01:06 PM
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SHANEJJ, How long did it take PSA to call you back? Thanks
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