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Old 06-26-2007 | 07:31 AM
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Old 06-26-2007 | 07:35 AM
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because they said he lied in the interview....... althought he didnt he was never convicted of anything and it was dropped...... they found it, said goodbye, and would not even entertain what he had to say.....this was like a week after getting the YOUR HIRED call.......
Sounds like there is more to the story here. I KNOW we have hired guys with DUI's and other infractions. This wasn't the guys that said he worked at Regions to "make his resume look better" was it?
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Old 06-26-2007 | 07:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Bucking Bar

5> This will not be an issue on a security / background check. It was not a felony conviction..
I have years of experience with federal background checks...they have the ability (and desire) to look at almost anything they want, especially "expunged" records. Depending on the scope of the check, they could also probably find an arrest that did not result in further legal action. It's complicated, but I could explain how it's done if you want.

Whether or not they pull out all the stops on airline pilot background checks I don't know, and neither do you. It's pretty dangerous to deny that something happened especially if they ask the question in a vague manner. Like I said, it is very, very common for pilots to get fired during ground school when the federal check comes up positive for something the guy "forgot" to mention at the interview. And the worst part of this is you have now been fired from a 121 employer for falsifying your background...you will NEVER, EVER recover from that one!

Personally I think it would be better to admit the problem at the interview, get declined by 9 employers and hopefully get hired by the tenth than to risk getting fired for non-disclosure.
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Old 06-26-2007 | 10:06 AM
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Like everybody else said, shouldn't be a problem as long as you handle it well.

You were a kid, you made a kid's dumb mistake. You learned from it, you saw the error of your ways, you moved on, and have been a responsible human being ever since (I hope).

As long as you take responsibilty for it, I'll bet that if it comes up in an interview, there will be less than 2 total minutes spent on the topic, if that.

The only thing might be if the interviewr takes the "bad cop" stance to try see if he can rattle you. You know, starts asking if you were always irresponsible, have problems exercising good judgement, trying to put you on the defensive about it. Dount it will happen, but maybe.
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Old 06-26-2007 | 06:12 PM
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5.) I'm in the process of obtaining my own fingerprinted FBI check, if no mention of a DUI shows up but an arrest does, could/should I try and get away with leaving those three letters out in an interview?
This is good information to have but beware the FBI records don't always show everything. I also got a FBI record for similar reasons and was very suprised to see the results. BTW these take about 12wks to process FYI. At any rate along with your FBI record I would also get a NDR. If you were infact suspended and there is a record of it the NDR is most likely going to be the source that points to your ticket. Especially in your case where it seems you may have received some leniency due to your age. Any airline you get hired by will require a NDR so be safe and know what is on it!
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Old 06-26-2007 | 07:47 PM
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I think at this point you should be more concerned about the 'possible' FAA issue. As stated by someone before you should consult an aviation lawyer to make sure that you are not making a mistake. It has been documented in past cases that "ignorance" is not a valid excuse. In other words just dont get yourself burned by a gray area. (is it grey or gray, I cant ever remember)
Remeber the FAA is here to help you (insert sarcasm)
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Old 06-26-2007 | 08:05 PM
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Originally Posted by bizzum
Sounds like there is more to the story here. I KNOW we have hired guys with DUI's and other infractions. This wasn't the guys that said he worked at Regions to "make his resume look better" was it?
Ha! Regions...that's pretty funny. I really can't believe that would be someone's reason to work there. More like upgrade and go.
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