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Originally Posted by at6d
(Post 3546431)
I just have a question for the OP—they let you go after your first written test fail? There was no further opportunity? Is there more to the story aside from a medical condition which you implied impaired your abilities to pass the systems test the first time?
The way you own this will determine how your future interviews go. Unfortunately, I was not given a second opportunity to retake the systems exam. They pulled me in a room and asked what happened. I explained I had been having a difficult time since I began my training and how I was having difficulties retaining information / sitting for long periods of time. They mentioned had I said something previously before the exam they may have been able to delay the training or work something out (which, once again is completely my fault). I was encouraged to resign and told this would not get listed on the PRIA. However, as mentioned I have not been hearing back from airlines after submitting applications so I have been skeptical. I'm still trying for figure out the best way to own my faults without making excuses and putting it on my health. Because the truth is, like many have said before, regardless of my circumstances I could have handled the situation better which would have had a better outcome. I will add since my last post I did reach out to someone from the company, in the training department, explaining my situation and they encouraged me to re-apply and provide my medical paperwork. So I am feeling somewhat optimistic. I will continue to send out my applications. Thank you all for your feedback and advice. It has all been very helpful, insightful, and has given me motivation to keep trying. |
Originally Posted by K1218
(Post 3549000)
Unfortunately, I was not given a second opportunity to retake the systems exam. They pulled me in a room and asked what happened. I explained I had been having a difficult time since I began my training and how I was having difficulties retaining information / sitting for long periods of time. They mentioned had I said something previously before the exam they may have been able to delay the training or work something out (which, once again is completely my fault). I was encouraged to resign and told this would not get listed on the PRIA. However, as mentioned I have not been hearing back from airlines after submitting applications so I have been skeptical. I'm still trying for figure out the best way to own my faults without making excuses and putting it on my health. Because the truth is, like many have said before, regardless of my circumstances I could have handled the situation better which would have had a better outcome.
I will add since my last post I did reach out to someone from the company, in the training department, explaining my situation and they encouraged me to re-apply and provide my medical paperwork. So I am feeling somewhat optimistic. I will continue to send out my applications. Thank you all for your feedback and advice. It has all been very helpful, insightful, and has given me motivation to keep trying. |
Originally Posted by dera
(Post 3549056)
It will be on your PRIA, whoever told you otherwise is misinformed, or they do not handle PRIA correctly.
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Did anybody tell you that there's no PRIA, and it's now the Pilot Records Database (PRD)?
Everything goes in the PRD, and it's a lifetime record. |
Originally Posted by JohnBurke
(Post 3549245)
Did anybody tell you that there's no PRIA, and it's now the Pilot Records Database (PRD)?
Everything goes in the PRD, and it's a lifetime record. SV failures are normally entered into the PRD, maybe in this scenario his carrier did not report it. |
Originally Posted by Clipper88
(Post 3549364)
that’s not necessarily true I have a failed KV from a previous 121 and nothing is in my PRD indicating that I failed anything (not a PRD/PRIA event under AQP). However, if someone failed a MV or LOE that would show up. My friend failed his LOE twice and both of those failures are in his PRD.
SV failures are normally entered into the PRD, maybe in this scenario his carrier did not report it. Yes, it's necessarily true that all your records must be in the PRD. Read the program. It's quite clear. Rather than type it out again, you can reference previous comments: https://www.airlinepilotforums.com/3398808-post4.html |
Originally Posted by JohnBurke
(Post 3549395)
What is a KV, MV, or LOE?
PV: Procedures Validation (checklist flows in a Matrix trainer) MV: Maneuvers Validation KV: Knowledge Validation (check ride oral) LOE is your check ride in the SIM At some airlines you’re required to have your KV and LOE same day. At my previous airline (SkyWest), all Validation are PRIA. |
Originally Posted by Str8 Cash Homie
(Post 3549415)
At my previous airline (SkyWest), all Validation are PRIA. Nothing is PRIA, because there is no PRIA. It ended. |
Originally Posted by K1218
(Post 3549000)
Unfortunately, I was not given a second opportunity to retake the systems exam. They pulled me in a room and asked what happened. I explained I had been having a difficult time since I began my training and how I was having difficulties retaining information / sitting for long periods of time. They mentioned had I said something previously before the exam they may have been able to delay the training or work something out (which, once again is completely my fault). I was encouraged to resign and told this would not get listed on the PRIA. However, as mentioned I have not been hearing back from airlines after submitting applications so I have been skeptical. I'm still trying for figure out the best way to own my faults without making excuses and putting it on my health. Because the truth is, like many have said before, regardless of my circumstances I could have handled the situation better which would have had a better outcome.
I will add since my last post I did reach out to someone from the company, in the training department, explaining my situation and they encouraged me to re-apply and provide my medical paperwork. So I am feeling somewhat optimistic. I will continue to send out my applications. Thank you all for your feedback and advice. It has all been very helpful, insightful, and has given me motivation to keep trying. Don’t give up, you will absolutely be hired. Just have that story down from what you learned and how you will move past it going forward. |
Originally Posted by JohnBurke
(Post 3549395)
What is a KV, MV, or LOE?
Yes, it's necessarily true that all your records must be in the PRD. Read the program. It's quite clear. Rather than type it out again, you can reference previous comments: https://www.airlinepilotforums.com/3398808-post4.html “I’ve seen a lot of confusion with people and PRIA records and what is PRIA reportable. Any checkride failure during your training will show up, but when you get to the 121 and 135 world it’s a little more confusing. The FAA made a handy dandy chart for everyone to reference. It is divided into AQP and PC tables near the end to make it easy to read. 121 Subpart Y is AQP carriers 121 N/O are others For AQP: MV, LOE, IOE, and Line checks are all required reports. HOWEVER your airline may send all training records along with your PRIA request (many do) For Non-AQP: PC, OE, and Line checks. They also can send training records (and do) Read for yourself for more understanding at the link below. If I missed something let me know!” https://www.faa.gov/documentLibrary/...LLGjl7p9l7rdNk |
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