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Originally Posted by JohnBurke
(Post 3549520)
Must be a regional thing and all the cool kids know the codes. Never heard of them.
Nothing is PRIA, because there is no PRIA. It ended. I’m guessing you haven’t reviewed an airline app in the last few decades because it DOES NOT MATTER what record collection database they call it now. Literally ANY jeopardy event you had in your training career will be asked to be listed on your apps. They ask the same “have you ever failed/Unsat question multiple times for a reason. You mean I have list that first intermediate stage check prior to another intermediate stage check prior to a private pilot check ride when I was a student pilot? Yes, and you won’t find that anywhere except your first paper training logbook. |
Originally Posted by Clipper88
(Post 3549587)
this has been previously discussed on the aviation career mentorship Facebook group. Here’s a copy paste of an excellent post regarding PRIA/PRD and AQP. KVs are not PRIA reportable under AQP.
“I’ve seen a lot of confusion with people and PRIA records and what is PRIA reportable. Any checkride failure during your training will show up, but when you get to the 121 and 135 world it’s a little more confusing. The FAA made a handy dandy chart for everyone to reference. It is divided into AQP and PC tables near the end to make it easy to read. 121 Subpart Y is AQP carriers 121 N/O are others For AQP: MV, LOE, IOE, and Line checks are all required reports. HOWEVER your airline may send all training records along with your PRIA request (many do) For Non-AQP: PC, OE, and Line checks. They also can send training records (and do) Read for yourself for more understanding at the link below. If I missed something let me know!” https://www.faa.gov/documentLibrary/...LLGjl7p9l7rdNk So the public won’t know about your small failure, but unless you decided to play word games in your apps and interview said airline will know. And if they don’t find out during both those steps, they’ll find out when your previous employer sends over your training records. |
Originally Posted by JohnBurke
(Post 3549245)
Did anybody tell you that there's no PRIA, and it's now the Pilot Records Database (PRD)?
Everything goes in the PRD, and it's a lifetime record. If you try to be pedantic, at least know what you are talking about because it sounds like you don't really know what PRIA means. PRIA is still alive and well, you just now use PRD to manage your PRIA mandated requests. The requirement to review a pilot's FAA records under PRIA is still in effect and is expanded on by 14 CFR Part 111. |
Originally Posted by Clipper88
(Post 3549587)
“I’ve seen a lot of confusion with people and PRIA records and what is PRIA reportable.
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Originally Posted by JohnBurke
(Post 3549731)
You do understand that PRIA ended, don't you? Gone. Over. Finis. Kaput. Over.
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Originally Posted by Clipper88
(Post 3549364)
that’s not necessarily true I have a failed KV from a previous 121 and nothing is in my PRD indicating that I failed anything (not a PRD/PRIA event under AQP). However, if someone failed a MV or LOE that would show up. My friend failed his LOE twice and both of those failures are in his PRD.
SV failures are normally entered into the PRD, maybe in this scenario his carrier did not report it. |
Originally Posted by JohnBurke
(Post 3549520)
Must be a regional thing and all the cool kids know the codes. Never heard of them.
Nothing is PRIA, because there is no PRIA. It ended. |
Those those who asked, yes, the PRD replaces PRIA. The transition began a year ago, and will be fully complete by September 2024, and which time the applicability of PRIA will be done in entirety.
As for jeopardy vs. non-jeopardy, there's no such thing as non-jeopardy. I have represented people in termination hearings and proceedings who were let go for what most consider to be "non-jeopardy" events; a notable one was a LOFT ride. You may think that an element of your AQP or other training is "non-jeopardy," and if it helps you to be naive enough to believe that and sleep better at night, have at it. But you'll be wrong. When that non-jeopardy event leads to a termination, or other penalty, you can bet that will be part of the database, and it doesn't go away. With PRIA, one's past became murky and buried a few years down the line. PRD, not so. Everything is jeopardy. Treat it accordingly, and prepare accordingly. |
For the OP, take a look at Fractional Operations. NetJets is good alternative to airline flying if you don't mind being gone 7 days at a time and doing some scut work like cleaning the cabin after a flight. I have a feeling NetJets is gearing up for more hiring, they just doubled the number of domiciles from 100 to over 200. You can live in the boondocks and use an airport with a bare minimum of airline service. You always start/finish at your domicile. NetJets has lowered their mins to a R-ATP.
Flexjet is another Fractional operator, they offer faster upgrade but benefits are far below NetJets. And someone already mentioned Fly Exclusive, they are growing fast and from what I've heard from an acquaintance who works there they treat their people very well. |
Originally Posted by JohnBurke
(Post 3549880)
Those those who asked, yes, the PRD replaces PRIA. The transition began a year ago, and will be fully complete by September 2024, and which time the applicability of PRIA will be done in entirety.
As for jeopardy vs. non-jeopardy, there's no such thing as non-jeopardy. I have represented people in termination hearings and proceedings who were let go for what most consider to be "non-jeopardy" events; a notable one was a LOFT ride. You may think that an element of your AQP or other training is "non-jeopardy," and if it helps you to be naive enough to believe that and sleep better at night, have at it. But you'll be wrong. When that non-jeopardy event leads to a termination, or other penalty, you can bet that will be part of the database, and it doesn't go away. With PRIA, one's past became murky and buried a few years down the line. PRD, not so. Everything is jeopardy. Treat it accordingly, and prepare accordingly. "Nothing is PRIA, because there is no PRIA. It ended." FYI: PRIA is still alive. The criteria has not changed. You need to do more homework about this. |
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