How bout some advice/overview for the younger guys?
07-08-2007, 09:23 AM
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My boyfriend and I are both FO's ad we dont live in a house with 6 other FO's or eat top ramen..... Get in the industry when your young and can afford to make no money. I am a new FO but he isnt, and he is not uphappy..... A BMW, an Audi and a nice apartment downtown....I'd say we live pretty well I think, of course I dont own a house or anything, but Im doing fine for being 22, and all my friends from college dont even have jobs and live with mom and dad still...... Of course I guess student loans would be a problem.... Guess we are lucky in that respect 
07-08-2007, 09:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Paok
My boyfriend and I are both FO's ad we dont live in a house with 6 other FO's or eat top ramen..... Get in the industry when your young and can afford to make no money. I am a new FO but he isnt, and he is not uphappy..... A BMW, an Audi and a nice apartment downtown....I'd say we live pretty well I think, of course I dont own a house or anything, but Im doing fine for being 22, and all my friends from college dont even have jobs and live with mom and dad still...... Of course I guess student loans would be a problem.... Guess we are lucky in that respect
With company match I put 17% into my 401k, both my wife and I have Roth IRAs, and we have about 4 months of normal expenses in cash savings. Not too bad for a couple 23 year olds...
The most important thing for anybody, especially a first year regional pilot, is to STAY OUT OF DEBT!
07-08-2007, 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Paok
My boyfriend and I are both FO's ad we dont live in a house with 6 other FO's or eat top ramen..... Get in the industry when your young and can afford to make no money. I am a new FO but he isnt, and he is not uphappy..... A BMW, an Audi and a nice apartment downtown....I'd say we live pretty well I think, of course I dont own a house or anything, but Im doing fine for being 22, and all my friends from college dont even have jobs and live with mom and dad still...... Of course I guess student loans would be a problem.... Guess we are lucky in that respect
07-08-2007, 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Paok
My boyfriend and I are both FO's ad we dont live in a house with 6 other FO's or eat top ramen..... Get in the industry when your young and can afford to make no money. I am a new FO but he isnt, and he is not uphappy..... A BMW, an Audi and a nice apartment downtown....I'd say we live pretty well I think, of course I dont own a house or anything, but Im doing fine for being 22, and all my friends from college dont even have jobs and live with mom and dad still...... Of course I guess student loans would be a problem.... Guess we are lucky in that respect
07-08-2007, 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by SAABaroowski
Thats a bunch of BS,...
These are observations from a lowly piston pilot trying to figure things out before I send my resumes in.
07-08-2007, 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Paok
My boyfriend and I are both FO's ad we dont live in a house with 6 other FO's or eat top ramen..... Get in the industry when your young and can afford to make no money. I am a new FO but he isnt, and he is not uphappy..... A BMW, an Audi and a nice apartment downtown....I'd say we live pretty well I think, of course I dont own a house or anything, but Im doing fine for being 22, and all my friends from college dont even have jobs and live with mom and dad still...... Of course I guess student loans would be a problem.... Guess we are lucky in that respect
07-08-2007, 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Slice
Please tell us you're a chick pilot...
07-08-2007, 01:13 PM
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Well I for one am glad for you. And your avatar was cool too. Any chance of replacing it?... much better than mine.
My life has been rather hard and I appreciate it when there are people who have been less stressed by it as yourself. Try and put some money away... BoilerUp has a valid point. I am not ashamed to drive a well-kept 15 year old car. They say the late great John Wayne drove an ordinary Pontiac.
My life has been rather hard and I appreciate it when there are people who have been less stressed by it as yourself. Try and put some money away... BoilerUp has a valid point. I am not ashamed to drive a well-kept 15 year old car. They say the late great John Wayne drove an ordinary Pontiac.
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07-08-2007, 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Cubdriver
Well I for one am glad for you. And your avatar was cool too. Any chance of replacing it?... much better than mine.
My life has been rather hard and I appreciate it when there are people who have been less stressed by it as yourself. Try and put some money away... BoilerUp has a valid point. I am not ashamed to drive a well-kept 15 year old car. They say the late great John Wayne drove an ordinary Pontiac.
My life has been rather hard and I appreciate it when there are people who have been less stressed by it as yourself. Try and put some money away... BoilerUp has a valid point. I am not ashamed to drive a well-kept 15 year old car. They say the late great John Wayne drove an ordinary Pontiac.
07-08-2007, 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by bertramcheeks22
OK, so I can read everyones griping and boasting about all the regionals, but WHY?!! I know that Mesa is bad and the QOL sucks..but WHY? So how bout anyone with any knowledge of any regional offers some insight as to why they like/dislike that particular airline. My application will be going out in about a year so I'd like to get know know what it's like out there. Care to enlighten us guys? Maybe a top 5 good and bad? Here's how I see it now. I live near Cleveland and have a mother that works for CAL so I've been partial to the airline forever. 
Good:
1. Horizon (LOVE the Dash 8's and it's west which is where I'd like to live ultimately.)
2. Skywest (West, KDEN)
3. Commutair (Dash 8's, Cleveland, CAL)
4. Republic
5. ExpressJet (CAL, Cleveland)
Bad
1. Mesa
2. PSA
3. Comair
4. Mesaba?
5. Great Lakes? (Although I really would LOVE to fly Beech 1900's out of DEN through the Rockies with no auto-pilot. Seems like a great experience, put the pay is just so damn low)
Good:
1. Horizon (LOVE the Dash 8's and it's west which is where I'd like to live ultimately.)
2. Skywest (West, KDEN
)3. Commutair (Dash 8's, Cleveland, CAL)
4. Republic
5. ExpressJet (CAL, Cleveland)
Bad
1. Mesa
2. PSA
3. Comair
4. Mesaba?
5. Great Lakes? (Although I really would LOVE to fly Beech 1900's out of DEN through the Rockies with no auto-pilot. Seems like a great experience, put the pay is just so damn low)
Look at where you want to end up in your career and work backwards. It will most likely chance over the years but you have to start somewhere. So narrow down where you would like to retire and then evaluate you best options on how to get there.
As far as chasing an aircraft. Sure it would be fun to fly a certain aircraft but I would guess after a few hundred hours it would loose its appeal. Then again I'd fly a supercub if the pay/benefits were right.
Originally Posted by BoilerUP
Do the two of you have at least three months of normal expenses saved in cash? How much do you have in retirement accounts? Audis and BMWs are nice but they don't let you retire early...
With company match I put 17% into my 401k, both my wife and I have Roth IRAs, and we have about 4 months of normal expenses in cash savings. Not too bad for a couple 23 year olds...
The most important thing for anybody, especially a first year regional pilot, is to STAY OUT OF DEBT!
With company match I put 17% into my 401k, both my wife and I have Roth IRAs, and we have about 4 months of normal expenses in cash savings. Not too bad for a couple 23 year olds...
The most important thing for anybody, especially a first year regional pilot, is to STAY OUT OF DEBT!
