Originally Posted by Bernoulli Fan (Post 189375)

ellen, this forum is for discussion. You just came on and made five posts in less than 20 minutes, acknowledging "I didn't even read the thread" in one of them. If you don't want to read and discuss, don't post.

Originally Posted by elcid79 (Post 189583)

HAHAHAHA... That is hilarious... The best part about it, is that i can't tell if your agreeing with me or not... haha... Either way, its hilarious!

and as for "I've always heard the best regional to go to is the first one that hires you..(with some exceptions obviously)...If you have plans for something better. If you are 40, and obviously going to be a LIFER, then you better try for a good company. Those of you who arent 40, go get your time, and keep yours bills low, and DO YOUR TIME....."
I couldn't agree more.

Originally Posted by BoilerUP (Post 188938)

"In my generation?"

:rolleyes:

In my generation it is unethical to benefit from a rule being one way your entire career then lobby to change it when it becomes most advantageous to you...guess nobody told the boomers that about Age 60, eh?

Originally Posted by elcid79 (Post 189560)

So I suppose that all of those eurpean carriers aircrafts are just falling out of the sky then, since a large portion of there training is done through ab initio training programs. And I really do guess, that flying around the pea patch doing stalls and slowflight, makes you a lot more suited to flying 121, than someone who may have less time, but has trained exclusively for that purpose. just out of curiosity as an example, how many people in your new hire class could explain exemption 3585 before classes even started? Knew what a PACK was, and had an extensive understanding of how it worked? Had a thurough understanding of high altitude aerodynamics? Core Lock? Understood, the whitlow interpritation? Every one of the AB kids in my class could. I am not saying that our pay is great, or we don't deserve more. If that happened, it would drive the minimums back up. Which would be a good thing. But I am saying, that before you insult a low time guy, get a handle on his experience level. The old idiom of, if i fly for 3000+ hours without killing myself or bending an airplane, it must mean i am a good pilot, is dead. Better training = better suited for the carreer. All low time pilots are not equal. 250 hours @ Joe's FBO and crabshack, will not be the same as 250 hours @ a specialty program like lufthansa's. Add in there sim training, a couple of type ratings, etc. They have a pretty diverse resume. As someone said earlier, the military has pilots that are qualified pic with that kind of experience. You don't see there aircraft dropping like flies, infact, many consider there training to be the best in the world.

Originally Posted by DMEarc (Post 190616)

The regional airline industry is very impressive. Low pay didn't start out by us saying- we'll fly a CRJ for $19,000/year.

However-when these pay scales were set the competetive minimums at carriers were 2500TT/500 Multi/200 Instrument etc etc etc. Well, flight instructors, like those regional captains and major FO's of today couldn't stand instructing anymore. So they jumped on whatever "airline" they could- warranting the company to abuse them with pay, contract ETC. If they didn't like it- they could go back to instructing.

How come no one remembers when US Airways guys told management to shove it when they went to the pilot union and asked them to fly EMB170's? Well now the 170's are going to RAH and the same pilots who we're "Too Good" for those, are complaining that those should be their airplanes. If these major guys would swallow their pride and fly the damn airplane, the regionals would not be what they are today.

Now, it's our generations job to take back what our bretheren lost.

Originally Posted by shanejj (Post 188913)

High time or Low time....
You either washout during training or you don't.

Some people can do this...others are less fortunate;)

Originally Posted by theskyisclear (Post 190671)

[/B] furthermore maturity and experience is something related with time, life time and you may pass the training but lack both...........