Annoying copilot
#92
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From: 7ER B...whatever that means.
. I always brief it and no one has a problem with it. They just remind me even though its exactly what I briefed. Thats what is annoying. This is how the conversation usually goes:ATC: Jetlink XXXX, fly heading 210, intercept the localizer 24R.
CA: Did you want green needles?
FO: I'll switch it when we get closer, we're still 30 miles out and doing 170kts cause its Cleveland.
CA: Oh, right.
#93
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From: ERJ FO
Not gonna be any more off course than an S-turning autopilot or trying to bracket with the autopilot would make me. Plus the ride is more comfortable for the pax. Sure hope you don't let any captains fly you into a mountain because they are the "final authority"
. I always brief it and no one has a problem with it. They just remind me even though its exactly what I briefed. Thats what is annoying. This is how the conversation usually goes:
ATC: Jetlink XXXX, fly heading 210, intercept the localizer 24R.
CA: Did you want green needles?
FO: I'll switch it when we get closer, we're still 30 miles out and doing 170kts cause its Cleveland.
CA: Oh, right.
. I always brief it and no one has a problem with it. They just remind me even though its exactly what I briefed. Thats what is annoying. This is how the conversation usually goes:ATC: Jetlink XXXX, fly heading 210, intercept the localizer 24R.
CA: Did you want green needles?
FO: I'll switch it when we get closer, we're still 30 miles out and doing 170kts cause its Cleveland.
CA: Oh, right.
#94
I just heard that one last week, supposedly second-hand from an LCA's mouth. Does it really work?
#95
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From: 7ER B...whatever that means.
And I believe the phrase is "for all intents and purposes"
#96
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From: 7ER B...whatever that means.
Supposedly it tricks the AP into thinking its in Cat II mode even though its not. I've never tried it but supposedly it makes the AP "smarter" and fly the approach better. The only problem I see with that is that the Honeywell seems to have the most problems when you are far away and they are crossing airplanes in front of the LOC antennae, something that would not happen in Cat II conditions so I'm not sure how it would handle those situations.
#97
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From: ERJ FO
If you really want to freak 'em out...turn off the FD too.
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Not gonna be any more off course than an S-turning autopilot or trying to bracket with the autopilot would make me. Plus the ride is more comfortable for the pax. Sure hope you don't let any captains fly you into a mountain because they are the "final authority"
. I always brief it and no one has a problem with it. They just remind me even though its exactly what I briefed. Thats what is annoying. This is how the conversation usually goes:
ATC: Jetlink XXXX, fly heading 210, intercept the localizer 24R.
CA: Did you want green needles?
FO: I'll switch it when we get closer, we're still 30 miles out and doing 170kts cause its Cleveland.
CA: Oh, right.
. I always brief it and no one has a problem with it. They just remind me even though its exactly what I briefed. Thats what is annoying. This is how the conversation usually goes:ATC: Jetlink XXXX, fly heading 210, intercept the localizer 24R.
CA: Did you want green needles?
FO: I'll switch it when we get closer, we're still 30 miles out and doing 170kts cause its Cleveland.
CA: Oh, right.
#99
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From: GV Captain
Not gonna be any more off course than an S-turning autopilot or trying to bracket with the autopilot would make me. Plus the ride is more comfortable for the pax. Sure hope you don't let any captains fly you into a mountain because they are the "final authority"
. I always brief it and no one has a problem with it. They just remind me even though its exactly what I briefed. Thats what is annoying. This is how the conversation usually goes:
ATC: Jetlink XXXX, fly heading 210, intercept the localizer 24R.
CA: Did you want green needles?
FO: I'll switch it when we get closer, we're still 30 miles out and doing 170kts cause its Cleveland.
CA: Oh, right.
. I always brief it and no one has a problem with it. They just remind me even though its exactly what I briefed. Thats what is annoying. This is how the conversation usually goes:ATC: Jetlink XXXX, fly heading 210, intercept the localizer 24R.
CA: Did you want green needles?
FO: I'll switch it when we get closer, we're still 30 miles out and doing 170kts cause its Cleveland.
CA: Oh, right.


