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Old 03-18-2023 | 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by flybub
Crew Scheduling how can I help?
This is Joe John calling in sick.
I don't know you Joe, what's your employee ID?
What?

It's all fun and games getting weekends off, until your airline quickly folds. Then you'll have every weekend off for sure.
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Old 03-18-2023 | 12:49 PM
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Well crap. Some anonymous internet keyboard told me to do something completely unsolicited. I must comply!
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Old 03-18-2023 | 04:13 PM
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Funny. Only two years ago at the start of Covid, when everyone said this industry was going to stagnate for years, no one would hire anytime soon, and everyone was wondering which regional would go under next, getting out of the regionals seemed like pretty common sense.

I remember watching the ALPA breakdown of all the American Eagle carriers and how much flying each one had lost. (Hint: a lot, but some more than others)

But now everyone is happy. Everyone is well paid. QOL is better than mainline. Well the good news is, if the banks collapse we will see who bet on the right horse.
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Old 03-19-2023 | 02:38 AM
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Originally Posted by APCHCLIMB
Funny. Only two years ago at the start of Covid, when everyone said this industry was going to stagnate for years, no one would hire anytime soon, and everyone was wondering which regional would go under next, getting out of the regionals seemed like pretty common sense.

I remember watching the ALPA breakdown of all the American Eagle carriers and how much flying each one had lost. (Hint: a lot, but some more than others)

But now everyone is happy. Everyone is well paid. QOL is better than mainline. Well the good news is, if the banks collapse we will see who bet on the right horse.
This is temporary. Think long term. 20 years from now it will not have made sense to camp out at your regional when you had the opportunity to get out.
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Old 03-19-2023 | 03:45 AM
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"Can't imagine better QoL at a major"

Stockholm syndrome describes the psychological condition of a victim who identifies with and empathizes with their captor or abuser and their goals.

Keep your apps updated. Get hired, move to base. Simple as that. Good luck.
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Old 03-19-2023 | 04:54 AM
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I have never, ever met a pilot at a legacy who regrets leaving their RJ, I have met many RJ guys who wish they pushed harder to leave earlier in the boom days.

The pre Covid plug at DL/UA probably has 4,000 pilots junior to them.
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Old 03-19-2023 | 04:59 AM
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Originally Posted by FlyinCat
There’s still reasons to stay at a regional. Nearest major airline base is a 4 hour drive away for me. I have good schedules and no interest in commuting. I can’t imagine a better QOL at the majors.

I’m guessing you haven’t looked at the major difference in retirement contributions at the major compared to a regional. Maybe you’re in your 20s and it isn’t really on your radar yet. A 16% DIRECT contribution aka no match needed from your salary vs say 4% at the regionals. Compounding returns is very important to understand. One day the stock market will actually make $ again.
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Old 03-19-2023 | 05:30 AM
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Originally Posted by VisionWings
The industry is moving slower these days for entry into 121. Many of you want to wait for the “flow” United, American, delta all created a flow. They want you to work for less than your value produces for their operations. With this point I recommend you leave your regional as soon as you can. Leave for any place even a move to a major or cargo carrier you’re not a big fan of. If these airlines see their regional model doesn’t work they’ll be forced to hand out seniority numbers mainline. Make their operations hurt. Why? Because they don’t mind letting pilots go hungry in lean times. You’re profit to them. A dollar amount with a cost for a service they provide. Your family deserves better. You deserve better. Do not wait for a flow. Do not wait around and be “loyal”. Corporate america doesn’t reward loyalty. In the past 30 years wage stagnated while record profits and ceo income exponentially increased while the true value of the median household income shrank. Now’s the time to seize that LCC or other carrier by the hand shake firmly and let regionals die. We don’t need regional jobs… we need major level jobs. If anyone says you’re not qualified or prepared for the “majors” ask them why that matters to them. Then go and prove them wrong. You’re a qualified capable pilot. Yes, you’ll be learning. But some of those captains gave up on learning years ago. Those captains want to take a nap while you do all the work. Those captains would’ve wanted the same opportunity you’re receiving now. Take the leap. Let the regional model burn. You’re only hurting your own progression and the median pilot income of those behind you when you stay.
You should consider shutting the __ up until you have some experience in the industry. You're a joke. Trying to get your first airline job out of one side of your mouth, and telling airline pilots what they should do out of the other.
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Old 03-19-2023 | 06:39 AM
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Originally Posted by PeteyT
You should consider shutting the __ up until you have some experience in the industry. You're a joke. Trying to get your first airline job out of one side of your mouth, and telling airline pilots what they should do out of the other.
Perhaps airline pilots who are hanging out at a regional by choice - at least those under 55-60 years of age - ought to listen to advice anywhere they can get it.
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Old 03-19-2023 | 08:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Excargodog
Perhaps airline pilots who are hanging out at a regional by choice - at least those under 55-60 years of age - ought to listen to advice anywhere they can get it.
Well my advice to the pilots you mention is to not take career advice from a airline pilot wannabe. Especially a wannabe who, himself, has recently been shopping regional cadet programs.

Originally Posted by VisionWings
If anyone says you’re not qualified or prepared for the “majors” ask them why that matters to them. Then go and prove them wrong. You’re a qualified capable pilot. Yes, you’ll be learning. But some of those captains gave up on learning years ago. Those captains want to take a nap while you do all the work. Those captains would’ve wanted the same opportunity you’re receiving now. [...] You’re only hurting your own progression and the median pilot income of those behind you when you stay.
All of this lecturing, and denigration of CAs at the majors, from someone that, as of a few months ago, had less than 500 hours.
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