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Old 03-19-2023 | 09:02 AM
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Originally Posted by golfandflows
I’m guessing you haven’t looked at the major difference in retirement contributions at the major compared to a regional. Maybe you’re in your 20s and it isn’t really on your radar yet. A 16% DIRECT contribution aka no match needed from your salary vs say 4% at the regionals. Compounding returns is very important to understand. One day the stock market will actually make $ again.
You're talking about money, not QOL. Money might be better at majors but is QOL, really? I have a pretty good nest egg put away and my spouse has a full retirement. While better benefits would be nice, I don’t need them. I want to spend time with my parents before they’re dead. I want to be a parent before my kid leaves for college. I want to spend weekends with my spouse. I want to enjoy my life now while I’m alive and healthy and not half dead with a walker. I haven’t met anyone over 60 yet who wish they’d worked more when they were younger. If I was under 30 and single I might feel different. I don’t want to waste another 5 years climbing a ladder while life slips away.

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Old 03-19-2023 | 09:14 AM
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Originally Posted by PeteyT
Well my advice to the pilots you mention is to not take career advice from a airline pilot wannabe. Especially a wannabe who, himself, has recently been shopping regional cadet programs.



All of this lecturing, and denigration of CAs at the majors, from someone that, as of a few months ago, had less than 500 hours.
if the advice is GOOD advice, would you reject it because you don’t like the source? That’s not very mature. If you can REFUTE the argument, do so. But don’t shoot the messenger.
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Old 03-19-2023 | 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by FlyinCat
You're talking about money, not QOL. Money might be better at majors but is QOL, really? I have a pretty good nest egg put away and my spouse has a full retirement. While better benefits would be nice, I don’t need them. I want to spend time with my parents before they’re dead. I want to be a parent before my kid leaves for college. I want to spend weekends with my spouse. I want to enjoy my life now while I’m alive and healthy and not half dead with a walker. I haven’t met anyone over 60 yet who wish they’d worked more when they were younger. If I was under 30 and single I might feel different. I don’t want to waste another 5 years climbing a ladder while life slips away.

Spirit has 4 days off mandated between trips per their contract. AND much better 401k contribution than any regional. Spirit will be around for a while…other regionals I’m not so sure. It’s a gamble either way.
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Old 03-19-2023 | 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Excargodog
If you can REFUTE the argument, do so. But don’t shoot the messenger.
He doesn't make an argument for why someone should leave. It's just a rant by someone who is trying to get the job that he's demanding that people resign from.
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Old 03-19-2023 | 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by PeteyT
He doesn't make an argument for why someone should leave. It's just a rant by someone who is trying to get the job that he's demanding that people resign from.
He made an assertion and gave his reasoning. Multiple people agreed with him. You answered with an ad hominem attack. Back in my high school debating days, he won easily on points.
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Old 03-20-2023 | 07:59 AM
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There’s a number of 9E flows who, due to their age, would have made significantly more money and had way better QOL, had they stayed at 9E to finish their careers instead of flowing to DL. That is of course assuming 9E survives to the end of their careers.

Everyone has a unique situation, there are few true one-size-fits-all solutions.
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Old 03-20-2023 | 08:27 AM
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Originally Posted by three1five
There’s a number of 9E flows who, due to their age, would have made significantly more money and had way better QOL, had they stayed at 9E to finish their careers instead of flowing to DL. That is of course assuming 9E survives to the end of their careers.

Everyone has a unique situation, there are few true one-size-fits-all solutions.
For some of those super senior dudes, they probably enjoy a few years taking a widebody to Europe than more 4-5 legs days upstate New York. They’re still making 200/hr on the ER with the new deal, which goes a long way to offsetting whatever they’d have been paid to stay. I’d venture anybody with more than 5 years left will cash out with more by going to DL. More than a few took 320/737 capt, so that’s 300/hr. Under 5 and it’s case by case, but they’re probably having a blast anyways it doesn’t matter. Had a super senior flow dude on my JS and he was having a blast, seemed thrilled to get the chance and was a great guy to have on.
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Old 03-20-2023 | 03:38 PM
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I left my regional and I am happy.
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Old 03-21-2023 | 08:32 AM
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Originally Posted by vetter
I left my regional and I am happy.
Congrats on the move! Where are you now?
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Old 03-21-2023 | 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted by vetter
I left my regional and I am happy.
Really think this needs elaboration. What's better? Why are you happier? No one really wants to spell this out except to say "money."
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