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Originally Posted by Armyguy
(Post 3616549)
You are nervous about finding a job in the greatest pilot market ever? Dang, you should just quit flight training
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Originally Posted by three1five
(Post 3617032)
Take it easy on them. In this industry if you’re not worried, you’re not paying attention.
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Originally Posted by HSCompressor
(Post 3616300)
When the legacies start offering longevity for years of service, then you know it has gotten really desperate.
And that will never happen at a unionized legacy. If they attempted this they would alienate all the pilots they have on property. |
Originally Posted by flynd94
(Post 3617388)
And that will never happen at a unionized legacy. If they attempted this they would alienate all the pilots they have on property.
And btw. When was the last time these management types cared about alienation? How alienated you think they feel at UA and AA right now? They love fractured groups. Hell, that’s the big reason at AA they have APA and not ALPA, because they are so fractured. |
Originally Posted by HSCompressor
(Post 3616300)
When the legacies start offering longevity for years of service, then you know it has gotten really desperate.
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Originally Posted by HSCompressor
(Post 3617479)
Unless it is expressly prohibited by a CBA I wouldn’t put it past them. And I don’t think they’d be too worried about alienating pilots either. If guys at the LCCs knew they could start a legacy with years of longevity I’d be a true mass exodus. It would probably sink their competition. So a little bit of alienation wouldn’t offend them.
That's a given, CBA specifies compensation and you can't change that unilaterally either way. They can't even offer premium pay to get people to pick up trips unless it's in accordance with CBA parameters. What they can do however is pay anything they like to people who are not yet employees... they can fund college degrees, flight school, pay off loans, etc, etc. As long as it all happens before they start indoc. Unless somebody has CBA language prohibiting that, but I haven't heard anything along those lines. |
Originally Posted by rickair7777
(Post 3618108)
Legacies are not desperate, legacies are causing other airlines to be desperate.
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Originally Posted by FlyinCat
(Post 3618326)
They are only desperate to staff their regionals.
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Originally Posted by TransWorld
(Post 3618359)
Eventually they will start hiring more regional FO.
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
(Post 3618116)
They cannot unilaterally decide to selectively pay some union members a bonus, but not others. Unless they get a side letter from the MEC, that kind of thing does happen but in this climate the MEC would get lynched unless lack of new hires was creating catastrophic disruption.
That's a given, CBA specifies compensation and you can't change that unilaterally either way. They can't even offer premium pay to get people to pick up trips unless it's in accordance with CBA parameters. What they can do however is pay anything they like to people who are not yet employees... they can fund college degrees, flight school, pay off loans, etc, etc. As long as it all happens before they start indoc. Unless somebody has CBA language prohibiting that, but I haven't heard anything along those lines. |
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