Interesting Article About Larger RJ's
07-07-2007 | 05:44 AM
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07-07-2007 | 07:34 AM
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Hmm, the article seemed to focus on the cost per seat per mile based on fuel as compared to larger aircraft, wonder how that cost per seat comparison looks once they figure in pilot pay being significantly cheaper on the RJ's.
07-07-2007 | 11:04 AM
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Lower pilot cost has historically not been a sufficient offset factor to make RJ's competetive on routes that can fill a narrowbody. RJ's are only cost-competetive on routes that have too few PAX to fill a 73/bus. They are also used on routes where the PAX desire frequency, ie 3-4 RJ's per day instead of two daily 737's gives the customers more planning flexibility...this has become a MAJOR marketing factor.
The problem with RJ's is that they have pretty much the same avionics and the same number of engines, generators, HYD pumps, etc as a narrowbody. The RJ parts are SLIGHTLY cheaper to manufacture due to being smaller, but the design and maintenance costs are almost the same as on a larger twin-engine airplane.
RJ's also burn more fuel per passenger than larger airplanes.
07-07-2007 | 11:11 AM
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Another factor that rarely gets attention in the RJ vs narrowbody economic debate is the cargo carrying capacity. Most legacy airlines have a dedicated cargo division that uses belly space in the domestic fleet for distribution. The advantage of a slight cost savings by deploying regional jets is offset or lost by the inability to carry cargo.
07-07-2007 | 05:11 PM
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Another factor that rarely gets attention in the RJ vs narrowbody economic debate is the cargo carrying capacity. Most legacy airlines have a dedicated cargo division that uses belly space in the domestic fleet for distribution. The advantage of a slight cost savings by deploying regional jets is offset or lost by the inability to carry cargo.
07-07-2007 | 06:17 PM
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So how bout we get some more friggin 73s and Busses out there at mainline already!?!?
And all you numb nuts tripping over yourselves to fly a CR9 or E190 at the regionals, KNOCK IT OFF! All you are doing is increasing your time at regionals and reducing the number of mainline jobs out there worth going to.
*steps off the soap box*
And all you numb nuts tripping over yourselves to fly a CR9 or E190 at the regionals, KNOCK IT OFF! All you are doing is increasing your time at regionals and reducing the number of mainline jobs out there worth going to.*steps off the soap box*
07-07-2007 | 06:27 PM
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So how bout we get some more friggin 73s and Busses out there at mainline already!?!? And all you numb nuts tripping over yourselves to fly a CR9 or E190 at the regionals, KNOCK IT OFF! All you are doing is increasing your time at regionals and reducing the number of mainline jobs out there worth going to.
*steps off the soap box*
And all you numb nuts tripping over yourselves to fly a CR9 or E190 at the regionals, KNOCK IT OFF! All you are doing is increasing your time at regionals and reducing the number of mainline jobs out there worth going to.*steps off the soap box*
07-07-2007 | 06:30 PM
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07-07-2007 | 06:32 PM
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Not to mention checked bags. In a ten year career as a CAL rampie, the only time 737s left bags behind was on long central & S. America legs requiring alternates. RJs tend to leave bags behind on far more pedestrian segments. At an average of $50 to deliver each bag, the RJ savings can disapear entirely. But the department that pays for bag delivery is different from the one that pays for AC operations... Who wants to bet that butt covering bean counters never calculate the true cost difference between a RJ and a Narrowbody?
(number of days on trip) x 10 = luggage allotment in pounds
If you're going on a weekend trip, you do not need a "heavy" and two carry-ons.
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