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blastboy 07-11-2007 03:58 PM


Originally Posted by KiloDelta (Post 193996)
that is good to hear...however, I will pretty much be at the average of the graduates of my university as far as hours go......250 and 50...so that will be my only problem

You will be fine with the Multi time, however, there are a few regionals out there who want more than that. If possible, try to build some time on the side. Go hang out at the FBO and make some pals to fly with. Or try to get some right seat time as a gear swinger with a 91 or 135 company. Where are you going to school at? What state?

KiloDelta 07-11-2007 04:03 PM


Originally Posted by blastboy (Post 194004)
You will be fine with the Multi time, however, there are a few regionals out there who want more than that. If possible, try to build some time on the side. Go hang out at the FBO and make some pals to fly with. Or try to get some right seat time as a gear swinger with a 91 or 135 company. Where are you going to school at? What state?

I suppose it doesn't really matter if I say what school I am going to, seeing as how I have nothing but good things to say about it. I graduated from WMU in Michigan with a bachelors in Aviation Flight Science a few months ago, and I am finishing up my multi-commercial right now. I do have a few people that I could probably fly with on the side once I get my commercial.

ce650 07-11-2007 04:05 PM

We have hired a few young low timers over the years, and they always seem very eager and full of themselves, ready to take on the world, think they can handle everything just cause they got thru 2 weeks of ground and sim school. First trip they realize just how far in over thier head they are and how unglamorus the job is. and that chicks just don't give a sh1t what you look like in uniform.

blastboy 07-11-2007 04:12 PM


Originally Posted by ce650 (Post 194009)
We have hired a few young low timers over the years, and they always seem very eager and full of themselves, ready to take on the world, think they can handle everything just cause they got thru 2 weeks of ground and sim school. First trip they realize just how far in over thier head they are and how unglamorus the job is. and that chicks just don't give a sh1t what you look like in uniform.

Wow! That's an encouraging paragraph. It's not the low timers with that attitude, it's the person. There are plenty of eager and full of themselves captains and 10,000 hour guys alike. It doesn't just boil down to pilots with low time in their logbook.

But your chicks not giving a dook is one mans' opinion. I beg to differ on that subject :D

By the way, what outfit do you fly for?

ce650 07-11-2007 04:44 PM

part 135 , citations 550's and 650's, And what I ment are the newbies get that shiny jet syndrome. I've seen it dozens of times, hell I had it 10 yrs ago. my first trip was a real eye opener. One capt. used to joke , the reason we have two FMS's in the plane is so I can set one up 20NM behind cause thats how far back you are. But I was 27 years old and mature enough to realize I didnt know as much , or was ready to take on as much as I thought. unlike lowtime young brand new comm. pilots

higney85 07-11-2007 05:31 PM

When I interviewed with PNCL almost a year ago I was by far the youngest guy in the room (just turned 21), as well as the lowest time guy (roughly 1000/250 with all the CFI's) and I was the only guy out of 11 who was hired- 3 were offered jobs and 3 screwed up the interview so I am no "superpilot" by the 1/11 statement. I was given a compliment in my HR interview that I had graduated a year early and with honors and then they asked why they should hire me instead of another guy in the breakroom with 3 times the flight time, a 4-year degree, 121 experience, and type ratings... I think the young pilot with ambition and is willing to put forth a little effort while your buddies are still doing keg stands will get you somewhere. Of course I said something more "PC" but thats the jist of it. They then told me- we will teach you what you need to know, and you will learn the rest before you are old enough to even be a CA. A 4-year degree is the first staple of a resume- its the fact that you show you can be taught and you will complete what you start. The next staple is the flight time (both TT and the columns that matter- PIC/JET), from that point in the job interview they are interviewing YOU. Age does matter, maturity and credentials matter, as does appearance (a fat slob just doesn't give as much confidence as someone who takes care of their body). A 25 year old with 4500TT and 1000TJPIC may get a better shot at the job compared to a 40 year old with 4500TT and 1000TJPIC. On a side note I can say that it is very bothersome for a CA to treat you like a kid just because his "kid" is also your age... don't get me started on this rant...Only happened twice but it still ticks me off..


Of course my "staples" are opinions up for debate... but I don't think many will find them too wrong...

CaptainMark 07-11-2007 07:06 PM


Originally Posted by higney85 (Post 194056)
. On a side note I can say that it is very bothersome for a CA to treat you like a kid just because his "kid" is also your age... don't get me started on this .

try being a widebody captain and the first officers kids are older than you...and they try and treat you like a kid...or someone under their command! that is always fun!

higney85 07-11-2007 07:11 PM


Originally Posted by CaptainMark (Post 194114)
try being a widebody captain and the first officers kids are older than you...and they try and treat you like a kid...or someone under their command! that is always fun!

I guess I am just doomed to be the "kid".. I have already had a few jumpseaters to MEM recognize my last name and ask "is ___ you dad"?

CaptainMark 07-11-2007 07:16 PM


Originally Posted by higney85 (Post 194117)
I guess I am just doomed to be the "kid".. I have already had a few jumpseaters to MEM recognize my last name and ask "is ___ you dad"?


well then you know FF.....FF got me hired at FDX years ago and told me about all the "sons" over there.....i was called "gerber" here when i got hired

Deez340 07-11-2007 07:54 PM


Originally Posted by CaptainMark (Post 194114)
try being a widebody captain and the first officers kids are older than you...and they try and treat you like a kid...or someone under their command! that is always fun!

Man i wish i had your problems!:D I can sympathize with you somewhat. when i was a regional captain some of the older guys (FOs) initially had trouble with the idea of a young whippersnapper like me being their captain. (even though I had way more flying experience) I've found that whether you're a Captain or FO and you know your sh*t, the respect that earns usually follows in short order. I always found a way to extend them the respect they had earned for their greater life experience while maintaining my authority. Although i do remember a particular old geezer who couldn't remember who had the four bars and needed some "motivation" to get with the program.:rolleyes:

I have a friend who is a 727 Capt. at purple. He is young and looks even younger. He is always mistaken for a new hire engineer.


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