Just got the ASA call!!
07-13-2007, 07:23 PM
#31
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Joined APC: Dec 2005
Position: 7ER B...whatever that means.
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Originally Posted by Pilotdude3407
I completely respect how you guys feel and I am not saying that it doesn't happen, I am just merely saying I have two choices.....to complain about it (which I don't get...why are you there...quite and do something else....go fly freight where you don't have any passengers.) or I can make the best of it.
Don't treat me like I have my head stuck in the sand.....I am currently flying corporate so don't tell me about sitting around and twiddling your thumbs...that is all we do. And yes, I have had hotel screw ups and car screw ups...lord knows any airplane will break sooner or later so don't act like it is just something new. All I am saying is for the life of me why do any of you that seem like you hate your job keep doing it. Yes it is food on the table but you can go get a corporate job that is at least a little better. Or like I said you can go fly freight where you don't have to deal with anyone. I am going to drop this line of conversation because it is a no win situation. I wish all of you luck in what you are doing and for any of you that work for ASA, if I get hired I look forward to working with you. CHEERS
Don't treat me like I have my head stuck in the sand.....I am currently flying corporate so don't tell me about sitting around and twiddling your thumbs...that is all we do. And yes, I have had hotel screw ups and car screw ups...lord knows any airplane will break sooner or later so don't act like it is just something new. All I am saying is for the life of me why do any of you that seem like you hate your job keep doing it. Yes it is food on the table but you can go get a corporate job that is at least a little better. Or like I said you can go fly freight where you don't have to deal with anyone. I am going to drop this line of conversation because it is a no win situation. I wish all of you luck in what you are doing and for any of you that work for ASA, if I get hired I look forward to working with you. CHEERS
07-13-2007, 07:38 PM
#32
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Pilotdude, keep up the good attitude. I'm one of those that has kept a good attitude during my humble 5+ years in the regionals (although I have been peeved at crew scheduling at times). For me, the good days outnumbered the bad and the bad days were just more of a challenge, just like any other job.
07-13-2007, 08:28 PM
#33
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Joined APC: Feb 2007
Position: Waiting for retirements
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Originally Posted by Pilotdude3407
This guy was nice, he wasn't just jumping for joy but I wouldn't call him depressed. I really couldn't care less about how they act, I am so pumped about possibly getting hired that I doubt anything could bring me down. Well minus not getting the job....
750TT
400Multi
220 Turbin SIC
I have heard both sides of the coin. Frankly this is how I look at it....I am going to show up expecting to get paid poverty level pay and working so much it will make your head spin.....and I am hell bent on enjoying every minute of it. I am not expecting any more any less. I am just happy to finally get an airline job. I can not stand people who complain and I refuse to ever do so because I am going in with the attitude that it is going to suck for the first year and so I am going to make the best of it. Once again, if anyone else is going to be there on the 19th, please let me know. CHEERS
750TT
400Multi
220 Turbin SIC
I have heard both sides of the coin. Frankly this is how I look at it....I am going to show up expecting to get paid poverty level pay and working so much it will make your head spin.....and I am hell bent on enjoying every minute of it. I am not expecting any more any less. I am just happy to finally get an airline job. I can not stand people who complain and I refuse to ever do so because I am going in with the attitude that it is going to suck for the first year and so I am going to make the best of it. Once again, if anyone else is going to be there on the 19th, please let me know. CHEERS
If ASA management doesn't agree on a contract soon, you may be one of a few pilots left at ASA.
By the way..........good luck. Use this as a stepping stone!
07-14-2007, 02:50 AM
#34
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Joined APC: May 2006
Position: A few
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Originally Posted by cubflyer
The only thing I can agree with you on is that I too was "hell bent on enjoying every minute of it." I hate to spring this on you, but most of us "complainers" started out with the same vigor that you have. I wish you luck. Let us know how you feel in 3 to 6 months. Hope you enjoy long layovers in Valdosta GA, Jackson MS, and other dumpholes that ASA flys to. Wouldn't be so bad if they actually gave a crap about their crews and put them in hotels that aren't in the "crime district".......Just wait my friend. The job becomes, well......a job.
If ASA management doesn't agree on a contract soon, you may be one of a few pilots left at ASA.
By the way..........good luck. Use this as a stepping stone!
If ASA management doesn't agree on a contract soon, you may be one of a few pilots left at ASA.
By the way..........good luck. Use this as a stepping stone!
It reminded me of watching a caterpiller turning into a butterfly........or someone having their soul drained away.
07-16-2007, 01:06 PM
#35
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Position: FDX B757 FO
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Pilotdude...
I was at ASA last week for the interview.
#1. Stay at the Red Roof Inn. It's not great. Actually, I found their customer service pretty lacking. But, it's inexpensive, and directly across the street from ASA and FlightSafety. There is a McDonalds, Ruby Tuesday's, and a few other bar/grill types of places within walking distance of the hotel. My room also had a fridge and microwave.
#2. Expect more of the same type of attitude at ASA's HQ as you got in the phone screening. Actually, I wouldn't even call it 'attitude', because that implies something negative. Some were better than others though, and you could tell a dramatic difference from one employee to the next. Some were happy to be there, and others didn't seem to be as much. I guess some are in a bit of a rut, doing the same thing, hearing the same scripted answers, and looking at hundreds of applications and resumes day in and day out. I wouldn't want their job. Everybody wasn't bubbling with enthusiasm like I got at my Comair interview, but I wasn't discouraged in any way either. They just seem to be doing their job and trying to maintain a very formal, business-like image.
#3. Don't worry about the written test. It couldn't have been any easier without being true/false. If you've made it this far in aviation, and you're still alive, you should be able to pass it with no problem. Spend more time preparing for the technical interview. Sign up for the free account and read the gouges on aviationinterviews.com for technical interview topics. I got lots of CRJ systems questions because I'm type rated in it. But, I also got lots of instrument questions, charts, and approach plates. Many of them were scenario-based as well. Not just, 'what is MEA and what does it give you?' Or, 'what are the minimum holding speeds?' You'll have to apply all your instrument knowledge in a few scenarios, including abnormal stuff (lost comms, etc.). And, much of the technical interview questions depend on who you get. I got lots of systems questions, while other people in my group (even with turbine experience) didn't get any.
#4. Everything is subject to change. Some things are done in different orders and at different times, even in the same interview group. My group wasn't told to show up to FlightSafety until 8:00, even though Phase II was listed as starting at 7:00 in the letter. By the way, you can go ahead and check out of the hotel and leave your baggage at the front desk while you go for the second day of interviewing. Overall, they get you through the process comfortably and quickly. The interview groups aren't that big at all, and they have plenty of staff. So, there's very little down time.
#5. You can probably get this from the letter. But, the general format of their interview process is: Phase I - Company intro and CRJ 700 presentation (for the sim), technical interview, written test (30 questions; instrument, commercial, 121 regs topics), written paragraph (just to see your written communication skills). After day one you'll go back to the hotel and call an automated number to see if you passed to phase II. They said it wouldn't be updated until 6:30, but I called at 4:30 and heard my number already. In my group, 4 out of 5 made it to the second day. Phase II - CRJ 700 presentation at FlightSafety, sim ride (see interview gouges for the profile - no AP, no FD, no FMS, just basic instrument flying on raw data done in the right seat), drug test, fingerprinting, HR interview, meeting with Dan Robertson (Pilot Recruiting Manager). If everything is in line, you might get an answer that day. In my case, they needed a few more days to complete the background check because I was fired from a job about 4 years ago right after I got out of college.
If you read the interview gouges and get to know the glass cockpit displays, you should be fine. The guy that did my sim ride was great and helped out a lot with power settings, configuration, etc. All you have to do is fly on the data given to you on the PFD. Nothing else matters.
I hope it works out. I'd love to be in Atlanta since I'm from that general area, and I like the company as a whole. If you have any questions, please feel free to PM me. Good luck.
Greg
I was at ASA last week for the interview.
#1. Stay at the Red Roof Inn. It's not great. Actually, I found their customer service pretty lacking. But, it's inexpensive, and directly across the street from ASA and FlightSafety. There is a McDonalds, Ruby Tuesday's, and a few other bar/grill types of places within walking distance of the hotel. My room also had a fridge and microwave.
#2. Expect more of the same type of attitude at ASA's HQ as you got in the phone screening. Actually, I wouldn't even call it 'attitude', because that implies something negative. Some were better than others though, and you could tell a dramatic difference from one employee to the next. Some were happy to be there, and others didn't seem to be as much. I guess some are in a bit of a rut, doing the same thing, hearing the same scripted answers, and looking at hundreds of applications and resumes day in and day out. I wouldn't want their job. Everybody wasn't bubbling with enthusiasm like I got at my Comair interview, but I wasn't discouraged in any way either. They just seem to be doing their job and trying to maintain a very formal, business-like image.
#3. Don't worry about the written test. It couldn't have been any easier without being true/false. If you've made it this far in aviation, and you're still alive, you should be able to pass it with no problem. Spend more time preparing for the technical interview. Sign up for the free account and read the gouges on aviationinterviews.com for technical interview topics. I got lots of CRJ systems questions because I'm type rated in it. But, I also got lots of instrument questions, charts, and approach plates. Many of them were scenario-based as well. Not just, 'what is MEA and what does it give you?' Or, 'what are the minimum holding speeds?' You'll have to apply all your instrument knowledge in a few scenarios, including abnormal stuff (lost comms, etc.). And, much of the technical interview questions depend on who you get. I got lots of systems questions, while other people in my group (even with turbine experience) didn't get any.
#4. Everything is subject to change. Some things are done in different orders and at different times, even in the same interview group. My group wasn't told to show up to FlightSafety until 8:00, even though Phase II was listed as starting at 7:00 in the letter. By the way, you can go ahead and check out of the hotel and leave your baggage at the front desk while you go for the second day of interviewing. Overall, they get you through the process comfortably and quickly. The interview groups aren't that big at all, and they have plenty of staff. So, there's very little down time.
#5. You can probably get this from the letter. But, the general format of their interview process is: Phase I - Company intro and CRJ 700 presentation (for the sim), technical interview, written test (30 questions; instrument, commercial, 121 regs topics), written paragraph (just to see your written communication skills). After day one you'll go back to the hotel and call an automated number to see if you passed to phase II. They said it wouldn't be updated until 6:30, but I called at 4:30 and heard my number already. In my group, 4 out of 5 made it to the second day. Phase II - CRJ 700 presentation at FlightSafety, sim ride (see interview gouges for the profile - no AP, no FD, no FMS, just basic instrument flying on raw data done in the right seat), drug test, fingerprinting, HR interview, meeting with Dan Robertson (Pilot Recruiting Manager). If everything is in line, you might get an answer that day. In my case, they needed a few more days to complete the background check because I was fired from a job about 4 years ago right after I got out of college.
If you read the interview gouges and get to know the glass cockpit displays, you should be fine. The guy that did my sim ride was great and helped out a lot with power settings, configuration, etc. All you have to do is fly on the data given to you on the PFD. Nothing else matters.
I hope it works out. I'd love to be in Atlanta since I'm from that general area, and I like the company as a whole. If you have any questions, please feel free to PM me. Good luck.
Greg
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