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Old 07-14-2007, 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted by stickwiggler View Post
This is the problem with the younger pilots........ IN my day we had 2,000 hours, got in our car and drove a day in advance, paid for our own hotel and made sure we were where we needed to be for the interview. No one owes you anything and you're lucky that you even have an interview so Cowboy the F*ck up and show up on time and stop whinning.

Actually, don't. I want you to go to AWAC so I don't have to fly with your premadona ***.

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"In your day" folks paid $10,000 to FlightSafety to get trained on the Saab or Brasilia or Metro or Bandit or Jetstream...does that make pay-for-training acceptable? Does that mean everybody should do it? Only in the airlines would somebody apply to a company in the middle of a recruitment shortfall and get tapped for an interview, only to be told they aren't guaranteed transportation to and from the interview.

I've done one Part 91 interview and got a full Y fare on American, paid Marriott, rental car, and reimbursed for all out-of-pocket expenses. Didn't get the job but I sure as hell wish I had...wouldn't have to work in such a tight-ass industry where people are so blindly accepting of draconian recruitment and retention policies.
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Old 07-14-2007, 10:18 PM
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Originally Posted by BoilerUP View Post
YGBSM!

"In your day" folks paid $10,000 to FlightSafety to get trained on the Saab or Brasilia or Metro or Bandit or Jetstream...does that make pay-for-training acceptable? Does that mean everybody should do it? Only in the airlines would somebody apply to a company in the middle of a recruitment shortfall and get tapped for an interview, only to be told they aren't guaranteed transportation to and from the interview.

I've done one Part 91 interview and got a full Y fare on American, paid Marriott, rental car, and reimbursed for all out-of-pocket expenses. Didn't get the job but I sure as hell wish I had...wouldn't have to work in such a tight-ass industry where people are so blindly accepting of draconian recruitment and retention policies.
Ooooooooooo.. he might have busted you there stick. When I was getting hired the only companies that weren't pay for training in one form or another was Mesaba and Eagle. and 2000 hrs was low. I went to Eagle and paid dearly for my principles in the form of upgrade time. I wouldn't change a thing.
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Old 07-14-2007, 10:34 PM
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I have an interview with XJT on July 17 travel positive space (Listed for First Class). In addition an interview on July 21 but need to fly out night before for AWAC on US AIRWAYS mainline space available..................? What is wrong with this picture?
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Old 07-14-2007, 10:41 PM
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I have an interview with XJT on July 17 travel positive space (Listed for First Class). In addition an interview on July 21 but need to fly out night before for AWAC on US AIRWAYS mainline space available..................? What is wrong with this picture?
I SERIOUSLY DOUBT you've been listed positive space first class! They're not going to tell someone wanting to buy a last minute first class ticket (lots of money) "sorry we're sold out. we did have a seat but there's this guy with 300 hrs and a temporary commercial certificate that our non subsidiary connection carrier needs to interview"
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Old 07-15-2007, 01:06 AM
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Haha yeah you're right still pretty cool though. Havent thanked you yet for your help since the intvw. It was spot on and she was a really nice person. I find out Monday if I get it or not.
One of the best experiences of my life. World's largest airline is pretty cool to be a part of even if you are just an intern.
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Old 07-15-2007, 05:16 AM
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Can someone please educate me on this S3, S2, A12, Positive Space, Standby. I'm not at the airlines yet so I don't know any of this jargon.
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Old 07-15-2007, 06:28 AM
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It's how airlines prioritize their non-revenue passengers (non-revs). Delta uses S1, S2, S3, S3a, etc. S1 being high priority standby, (space available). PS is positive space, it's almost as if they gave you an actual ticket. You have a seat assigned to you and everything. Catch is, that paying passengers always have priority. So if the flight is oversold, or an earlier flight gets canceled, it's useless. Other airlines have different ways of doing it but it's still similar.
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Old 07-15-2007, 06:36 AM
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Originally Posted by flyandive
PS is positive space, it's almost as if they gave you an actual ticket. You have a seat assigned to you and everything. Catch is, that paying passengers always have priority. So if the flight is oversold, or an earlier flight gets canceled, it's useless. Other airlines have different ways of doing it but it's still similar.
Positive space is just that - you have a seat on the airplane, and if necessary a paying passenger will be denied boarding so that you positively have a seat. Positive space is also sometimes called "must ride".

For my interview at AWAC in 2005 I had the option of positive space to MKE on Airways or space available on United to ATW; I chose positive space to MKE and rented a car. I made it to the interview (even after running my rental off US41 in a snowstorm) while those traveling NRSA (non-revenue space available) on United got stuck overnight at ORD.
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Old 07-15-2007, 07:28 AM
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At some airlines there's a difference and 'must ride' actually has priority over positive space since there may be different classifications of it.
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Old 07-15-2007, 09:51 AM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777 View Post
No SKW has been doing positive space for some time now...We're a bit short on pilots too.
yeah it was about 3 years ago.
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