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Old 07-17-2007 | 05:26 AM
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Originally Posted by belliott
You gotta be kidding me!!!! WTF! I can't think of a single reason why a pilot should compromise his/her career for a stupid Ipod.... I cannot fathom why this would happen. Thanks to whoever it was.... tarnishing the profession.... jerk.

You want a single reason? Here's one. Getting an airline pilot job is just too damn easy. As short as 10 years ago, a pilot would have to flight instruct for years, then go fly 135 for another year or two. Then if he didn't kill him/herself flying checks in a C401 at night single pilot with no radar, he applied (and usually paid more $) and got a job where he sat in the right seat of a turbo prop for another 2 to 3 years. Then after 5 to 7 years that pilot would go the right seat of the jet or captain in the prop.

Today.... graduate, get your license and you have a job. There is no respect for the position. What use to take years of blood sweat and tears, is now an expectation or many feel an entitlement.

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Old 07-17-2007 | 06:14 AM
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Originally Posted by stickwiggler
You want a single reason? Here's one. Getting an airline pilot job is just too damn easy. As short as 10 years ago, a pilot would have to flight instruct for years, then go fly 135 for another year or two. Then if he didn't kill him/herself flying checks in a C401 at night single pilot with no radar, he applied (and usually paid more $) and got a job where he sat in the right seat of a turbo prop for another 2 to 3 years. Then after 5 to 7 years that pilot would go the right seat of the jet or captain in the prop.

Today.... graduate, get your license and you have a job. There is no respect for the position. What use to take years of blood sweat and tears, is now an expectation or many feel an entitlement.

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Low time regional pilots are now stealing from Pax!! People constantly accuse me of being extreme in my beliefs but who could have known how far our industry would fall in just one year.

250 hour 19 year old regional pilots... The sky is falling.

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Old 07-17-2007 | 06:18 AM
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Originally Posted by SkyHigh
Low time regional pilots are now stealing from Pax!! People constantly accuse me of being extreme in my beliefs but who could have known how far our industry would fall in just one year.

250 hour 19 year old regional pilots... The sky is falling.

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He is 34 years old, and in the other iPod thread in the regional forum FlyerJosh posted evidence that he could be a captain.
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Old 07-17-2007 | 07:53 AM
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I would like to hear the recording of the PA while all this is going down and after.

"Well folks,ahhhhhhhh, ahhhhhhhhhhhh... hold on."""
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Old 07-17-2007 | 08:01 AM
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Originally Posted by SkyHigh
Low time regional pilots are now stealing from Pax!! People constantly accuse me of being extreme in my beliefs but who could have known how far our industry would fall in just one year.

250 hour 19 year old regional pilots... The sky is falling.

SkyHigh
It has nothing to do with low time... What do you say about captain at NWA cursing out pax or stealing cars or driving on the wrong side of the road to by drugs...They most be low time captains It doesn''t matter how much total time you have, you can still be an @ss
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Old 07-17-2007 | 08:02 AM
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that's pretty bad, just what the passengers needed was someone to do something stupid...now they can complain about being late, being stuck on the ramp, and having the pilots steal from them...there was a time when they only believed it'd be those shady ramp guys taking stuff....but not anymore.
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Old 07-17-2007 | 08:08 AM
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Originally Posted by bintynogin
I would like to hear the recording of the PA while all this is going down and after.

"Well folks,ahhhhhhhh, ahhhhhhhhhhhh... hold on."""
Ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard Flight 5372. My name is Captain Howard, assisted by First Officer #372419. Also up front is his Probationary Officer...he's here to make sure the FO doesn't steal the reading light while I'm not looking. We're expecting about a 2 hour flight today at an altitude of 35,000 feet.....
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Old 07-17-2007 | 08:17 AM
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Reminds me of when I worked for Flight Safety in St. Louis. A TSA new hire going through initial on the Jetstream, took a liking to a picture of a TSA Jetstream in the lobby, so he took it. He was caught on the surveilance camera, and the center manager turned the tape over to TSA's management. The pilot had to come in and return the picture in person, talk about a walk of shame. I don't know what happened to him, but maybe he likes Ipods?
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Old 07-17-2007 | 08:25 AM
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That is insane. I couldn't imagine working the flight with him after that. I hate people who steal. Idiot
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Old 07-17-2007 | 10:12 AM
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You want a single reason? Here's one. Getting an airline pilot job is just too damn easy. As short as 10 years ago, a pilot would have to flight instruct for years, then go fly 135 for another year or two. Then if he didn't kill him/herself flying checks in a C401 at night single pilot with no radar, he applied (and usually paid more $) and got a job where he sat in the right seat of a turbo prop for another 2 to 3 years. Then after 5 to 7 years that pilot would go the right seat of the jet or captain in the prop.

Today.... graduate, get your license and you have a job. There is no respect for the position. What use to take years of blood sweat and tears, is now an expectation or many feel an entitlement.

rant complete.

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So the pilots on America West 556 had the right to do what they did because they came into the industry when it took years of blood, sweat, and tears? The industry has changed and younger pilots are taking advantage of it. Why assume that because some are hired with low times they don't value their jobs?
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