Will having my ATP help or hurt me?
05-04-2024, 03:32 PM
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Will having my ATP help or hurt me?
I have my ATP written complete. If I go and get my full ATP rating either in a twin piston at my own expense, or during my upcoming Pt 135 recurrant, will that help or hurt my chances of getting hired by a regional?
It could help because I am seen as more qualified and less of a risk.
It could also hurt because then they can't hold the ATP/CPT training costs over me to stay for a given amount of time, thus not being beholden to them.
Anyone know which way this wind blows?
It could help because I am seen as more qualified and less of a risk.
It could also hurt because then they can't hold the ATP/CPT training costs over me to stay for a given amount of time, thus not being beholden to them.
Anyone know which way this wind blows?
05-04-2024, 04:43 PM
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Like why are you even asking this question?
Is getting your ATP on your own dime an increase or a decrease of your qualifications?
In a cooling market make yourself stand out and add to your qualifications.
DUH
Is getting your ATP on your own dime an increase or a decrease of your qualifications?
In a cooling market make yourself stand out and add to your qualifications.
DUH
05-04-2024, 08:37 PM
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I have my ATP written complete. If I go and get my full ATP rating either in a twin piston at my own expense, or during my upcoming Pt 135 recurrant, will that help or hurt my chances of getting hired by a regional?
It could help because I am seen as more qualified and less of a risk.
It could also hurt because then they can't hold the ATP/CPT training costs over me to stay for a given amount of time, thus not being beholden to them.
Anyone know which way this wind blows?
It could help because I am seen as more qualified and less of a risk.
It could also hurt because then they can't hold the ATP/CPT training costs over me to stay for a given amount of time, thus not being beholden to them.
Anyone know which way this wind blows?
05-05-2024, 04:12 AM
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This was at a regional where you didn’t need an ATP, and would only get one once you upgraded. I was a few months from upgrade but had the chance to get my ATP for only the cost of the examiner fee. It didn’t end up helping, but sure didn’t hurt either.
05-05-2024, 04:23 AM
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Yeah I walked to school in snow too, but it was only 2.5 miles and only uphill one way. That's a joke, but I actually did do that... as you can imagine I had already bought the car and got my license right when DMV opened on my 16th birthday.
I think the OP's concern is reasonable, I don't know the answer but regionals have engaged in some bizarre practices in the interest of retention at various points in history. But I'd proably just go get the ATP, it's not like that will blackball you from all regionals forever.
I think the OP's concern is reasonable, I don't know the answer but regionals have engaged in some bizarre practices in the interest of retention at various points in history. But I'd proably just go get the ATP, it's not like that will blackball you from all regionals forever.
05-05-2024, 05:06 AM
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It will help more than it hurt to be honest….Regionals that have contracts are going to force you to sign their contract to be hired….
What having your ATP does is open doors that normally wouldn’t be open without a ATP such as Part-135 Jet jobs….
What having your ATP does is open doors that normally wouldn’t be open without a ATP such as Part-135 Jet jobs….
05-05-2024, 05:07 AM
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I wasn’t nice in my first answer.
Don’t assume you’ll get anything anywhere from anyone and just keep chipping away at your path.
Which means getting your ATP during your next re qualification.
If it doesn’t get you moving then upgrade at your 135 and start building PIC time.
Enjoy your journey and good luck.
Don’t assume you’ll get anything anywhere from anyone and just keep chipping away at your path.
Which means getting your ATP during your next re qualification.
If it doesn’t get you moving then upgrade at your 135 and start building PIC time.
Enjoy your journey and good luck.
05-05-2024, 05:20 AM
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I have my ATP written complete. If I go and get my full ATP rating either in a twin piston at my own expense, or during my upcoming Pt 135 recurrant, will that help or hurt my chances of getting hired by a regional?
It could help because I am seen as more qualified and less of a risk.
It could also hurt because then they can't hold the ATP/CPT training costs over me to stay for a given amount of time, thus not being beholden to them.
Anyone know which way this wind blows?
It could help because I am seen as more qualified and less of a risk.
It could also hurt because then they can't hold the ATP/CPT training costs over me to stay for a given amount of time, thus not being beholden to them.
Anyone know which way this wind blows?
05-05-2024, 05:35 AM
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Will it hurt with some regionals - maybe
Is what you are doing now getting the results you want - no
Will it MAJORLY improve your chances with every single other part of the industry - 100%
So many jobs have a full and unrestricted ATP as an absolute, non-negotiable minimum - get the paper.
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