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Originally Posted by usmc-sgt (Post 198998)

117!? Rookies

step 1: fly down the pipe at the yellow arc (higher if the air is smooth) all the way down to the approach lights.

step 2: put the plane into a full slip but hold glide path so you are using the drag to reduce speed and not lose altitude.

step 3: once the airspeed is around 110 put in full flaps and roll out of the slip as the flaps are extending making sure to abide by "slips with flaps are not reccomended"

step 4: land the airplane somewhere around 80 which should give you just enough float to not land that sweet short field landing on the numbers of your favorite class B and then taxi 4000' to the first exit at 5 knots giving thumbsup to all of the jets holding short for your "sweet" perfect short field landing right on the numbers

It makes controllers happy when you say you can give them 140 on an approach in a skychicken

disclaimer: please do not attempt this if it is beyond your ability, and not reccomended in actual unless you have more ifr experience than the 3 hours in the hood you got for your private

Thats very nice.

My instructor and I came down the ILS at TUS at 170 indicated the last time I was down there... Although the PA-44 Slows down a bit quicker than a 172.:)

haha - rock on.

Now, everytime someone gives me hell for wanting to go into ATL at 3am in a Diamond Twinstar I'll let them know some guy in a Cessna 172 went in there at 10-11PM.

Nice.

Dang I must have been lucky, no one has given me hell about going into hou or msp in the middle of the day in the chicken hawk:eek::cool:

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Originally Posted by Dark Knight (Post 199225)

nice dude, verrry nice....

that's just classy in every way....brought a smile to my face

I cant tell if this is sarcasm of not:confused:

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Originally Posted by pete2800 (Post 199248)

Thats very nice.

My instructor and I came down the ILS at TUS at 170 indicated the last time I was down there... Although the PA-44 Slows down a bit quicker than a 172.:)

Yeah, going into SNA one time, we were doing about 160 KIAS over the 405 freeway. Yes, it is a good thing they slow down FAST. Over the freeway power to idle, at 140 gear down, at 100 flaps fully extended. Man was it fun! No exaggeration, those that have flown the PA-44 know how fast that thing slows down.

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Originally Posted by surreal1221 (Post 199250)

haha - rock on.

Now, everytime someone gives me hell for wanting to go into ATL at 3am in a Diamond Twinstar I'll let them know some guy in a Cessna 172 went in there at 10-11PM.

Nice.

I have been flying in, over, under, and through this class bravo for several years. My experience is Approach and/or Tower will give you the key to the city if they have the time for it. This is true despite the fact that ATL is the busiest airport in the world. It has triple Cat III ILS's working overtime some days. General aviation is not unwelcome, and commercial GA airplanes use 8/26 all day every day. Recreational and even student pilots are welcome after business hours as long as they realize they are in a significant airspace.

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Originally Posted by ERAUdude (Post 199284)

and loses altitude, :D

sometimes you just have to keep it interesting. Vref is for over the threshold, what happens before that is dependent upon the situation.

in case you are wondering..i am not some renegade pilot or one of those "bold" pilots that is out with a death wish. I do feel however that if you know your machine it opens up alot of doors and options for you. Just look at mr. hoover

The closest I came to that kind of fun was a Cessna 152 into CLT during July. Joined the 737 conga line and flew the ILS wide open at a screaming 100 kts. Good news? It wasn't prime time and I don't think that I irritated the working pros or the controllers. Great experience.

Well, I have to issue an apology. Yesterday my student and I took a x/c down to PHX. Everything went really smoothly, quick in and out at 1630 local time. Except I pretty much botched the arrival...approach told us to PLAN to follow an Alaska 737, and I heard FOLLOW the 737. So I told my student to turn and fall in behind him. Thirty seconds later approach was all over my case saying I needed to listen up and pay attention, now Alaska was too close to me (apparently we were keeping up???) and he couldn't let him descend. Approach asked Alaska if they could make it (about 3,000 AGL a mile or two out) and AK said "I don't know, we'll see". Long story short, I nearly made a 737 go around in my bugsmasher. They made it, we survived the tongue lashing, and I learned a lesson. With a shameful entry though. :( So if you were flying into PHX yesterday and some idiot in a 172 wouldn't let you descend, I owe you a beer and an apology.