I am trying to stay very positive about this. I am frustrated, as I was very careful in the company I picked to want to work for.

It was the way of the company. They took two trainies, and when one trainee was flying, the other trainee was acting as captain. It was explained to us that during the checkrides, that if the PNF was not doing the job correctly (call outs, etc) then they would be removed from the sim, and the check airman would step in and be the PNF, well that never happened.

My sim partner went through the checkride first, and the person did horrible, and busted. I asked the check airman to remove my sim partner, as I did not think they were up being the PNF, and I was told no, and I would have to deal with it. Well as everyone knows after you bust a ride, you game is not 100% in it anymore, and that was exactly the case.

Both my sim partner and myself were expelled from training the next day after talking to management.

 

My time going into the training was:

2000 TT
300 ME
250 ACTUAL IFR
250 Night
1600 Dual Given

500+ hours in the previos 6 months!

 

That is a lot of good hours.

If you had no problems in training in the past then I do not see why you should have difficulties in 121 training..........

 

you'll be fine. everyone is REALLY REALLY short and you should get in somewhere easily.

 

AE use to use upgrading captains and paired them with FO's....but that was years ago... our annual recurrent was always scheduled with an FO and a CA as well.....but i guess if the bodies arnt available the next best thing is the check airman.....

 

how is it that these 300 hour guys are able to get through training ?

 

Time is important...but not necessarily for training. To get through training, you need to be TRAINABLE. The 2 high time guys in my new hire class last year didn't make it. Its not that uncommon.

 

BINGO!!!! Sounds like this guy is not telling us everything. I just find it hard to believe that the airline will spend all that money to just kick you out at the end. As for my guess, I think he was at Express. I had a guy in my class that fits that profile.

Downtownkid, where you in the early morning sim class? I think we were in class together.

 

you normally do not get to 2000 hours flight time without being "Trainable"

to get a job at a Regional you need your CPL- ME instrument.........

to get to 2000 hours you either are a CFI or flew for a company and got some "training" so I see it difficult to have 2000 hours including 300 ME and all the ratings and maybe even CFI MEI CFII without being "trainable".........

People mention "trainable" like the guys applying to the regional have never been in training before............

With good instructors the 121 training in D-sim should be more structured and actually easier than many other trainings..........

but that is with good instructors and a good program..............

there is so many factors involved that it is difficult to see the whole picture

 

The quality of the hours matters in my estimation. Personally I'd rather have a guy with some sort of operational time ( ie...airline, military, freight...etc ) vs 1500 hours of "dual given"..... its just a different type of flying. As for trainable, because a given guy was able to get a mult ticket and instrument ratings in a 172 and a seminole ( just examples ) doesnt mean he can fly a 50-70 seat jet at 350TAS... its just different. MOST guys.. learn and adapt... some dont. Hell in my UPT class we had an army helo guy who had gotten a commission in the AF .. he had 1700 hours of helo time and was instrument rated.... and washed out.. ON FLYING skills.... you just never know.

an before somebody flames me about dual given hours... while you certainly learn alot in that environment its still different.. not better or worse...just different than flying the line so to speak