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UNDGUY 07-27-2007 01:16 PM

Mesa Pilots
 
Do Mesa pilots ever have problems jumpseating like I have heard many times about GO Jet pilots. I know everyone hates Mesa and everyone says it's a terrible place to work, but do pilots hate the airline and management exclusively or do they also dislike the pilots for working there? Is working for Mesa as bad as working for Go Jets as far as the way pilots from other airlines will think of you and treat you. Will a captain board for a major airline look at someone from Mesa different than someone who flew for SkyWest if they have both flown the same aircraft for the same amount of time.

JetJock16 07-27-2007 01:54 PM

I'd never deny a MAG pilot my jump. They gave up a lot to keep their flying in house and I'd gladly buy them a beer because of the BS they have to put up with from JO. But still, friends don't let friends work for JO.

MAG’s current situation is completely different from that of BlowJet!

Seatownflyer 07-27-2007 03:26 PM

One jumped with us yesterday. Welcome aboard I say.

POPA 07-27-2007 03:42 PM


Originally Posted by JetJock16 (Post 203584)
I'd never deny a MAG pilot my jump. They gave up a lot to keep their flying in house and I'd gladly buy them a beer because of the BS they have to put up with from JO. But still, friends don't let friends work for JO.

MAG’s current situation is completely different from that of BlowJet!

Spot on, man.

Pilotpip 07-27-2007 05:14 PM

What they said. Mesa guys took it on the chin to get rid of an alter ego that was being used to whipsaw the pilot group over there.

I'm not anti Mesa pilot, I'm anti Mesa Management. The pilots are welcome abord any time.

newgrad411 07-27-2007 09:06 PM


Originally Posted by Pilotpip (Post 203671)
What they said. Mesa guys took it on the chin to get rid of an alter ego that was being used to whipsaw the pilot group over there.

I'm not anti Mesa pilot, I'm anti Mesa Management. The pilots are welcome abord any time.

As the above have said, I have never had any problem jumpseating and everyone I have met doing so has been very nice.

Thanks all for that.

BoilerUP 07-28-2007 12:21 AM

Mesa pilots hate their company more than other airline pilots hate their company. We're brothers and sisters in commiserating!

groovinaviator 07-28-2007 05:27 AM

I have an interesting Mesa story...
I was commuting from STL-ORF through CLT. The CLT-ORF leg i rode up front on a CRJ900 due to no open seats in the back. Both pilots had 4 stripes and I thought to myself that it must be OE or something... cool. It actually turns out that the captain in the right seat was junior manned to the right seat and was even senior to the captain in the left seat... that absolutely blew my mind! Junior manning to the Right seat? Has anyone else heard of this?

I have never personally had a Mesa jumpseater, but welcome aboard!

POPA 07-28-2007 05:40 AM


Originally Posted by groovinaviator (Post 203917)
Junior manning to the Right seat? Has anyone else heard of this?

I've seen it at both TSA and CHQ.

JetJock16 07-28-2007 08:53 AM


Originally Posted by groovinaviator (Post 203917)
I have an interesting Mesa story...
I was commuting from STL-ORF through CLT. The CLT-ORF leg i rode up front on a CRJ900 due to no open seats in the back. Both pilots had 4 stripes and I thought to myself that it must be OE or something... cool. It actually turns out that the captain in the right seat was junior manned to the right seat and was even senior to the captain in the left seat... that absolutely blew my mind! Junior manning to the Right seat? Has anyone else heard of this?

I have never personally had a Mesa jumpseater, but welcome aboard!

It happens at SKW as well, most of the time its new CA’s waiting for IOE who ride the right seat at 150% CA pay. I had a friend who was waiting for CA IOE and flew an 82 hour month as FO. His normal CA pay was $60 an hour and he was still paid his monthly guarantee seeing that all his FO flying was above and beyond his reserve pay, so here's how his month broke down:

Jr Manned: 82 hrs X ($60 X 150%) = $7,380

Plus:

Guarantee: 75 hrs X $60 = $4,500

$7,380 + $4,500 + $425 (per diem) = $12,305

NICE MONTH!


P.S. He couldn’t sitting reserve because he hadn’t finish IOE.


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