320kts below 10,000' - legal?

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08-01-2007 | 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by shackone

I wasn't referring to the LGPOS....excuse me, lawndart...sorry, Fighting Falcon.

Sorry man, born too late to fly the Rhino...at least you had room to store your walker. How old are you?

08-01-2007 | 06:10 PM

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Atc can not approve a speed above 250kts below 10. If they do and you exceed the speed you are in violation. It does not matter that they told you to do it.

08-01-2007 | 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by stickwiggler

I don't know if they are still doing it or not.... but, for a time Houston airpspace had a waiver and would assign > 250 below 10k. I know I did it all the time.
Stick

That's the only place in US airspace where ATC could authorize >250 below 10K (for a civilian).

08-01-2007 | 06:18 PM

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you guys need a hobbie

08-01-2007 | 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by EDC757

Birds rarly are above 5,000' but if you hit one, ouch.

I wouldn't believe this if I wasn't in the jumpseat at the time...but coming in to MCO crossing over the shoreline by DAB in a MD80...somewhere between 10K and 8K...hit a bird or a terradactyl or a 152....I dunno...but it left a hell of a stain on the FO's windscreen...

08-01-2007 | 09:07 PM

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Supposedly windshields are designed to take a medium bird at 250 kts, and that's why the 10K limit was originally applied. Don't know this for sure though.

Mr. Lear bragged his jet would take it and wanted to sit in the seat. They lawyers talked him out of it. Then they fired a frozen chicken at it and it took the window right off along with the headrest where his head woulda been.

08-01-2007 | 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by SharkyBN584

Out in the desert by Mexico it's very common to see large amounts of buzzards in thermals at 8K+. Never hit one though. They outran the 172. However when they tried to hydraseed the airport during dove season you were off your game if you didn't bag a limit on short final lol.

08-01-2007 | 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by rickair7777

That's the only place in US airspace where ATC could authorize >250 below 10K (for a civilian).

yea it was an operational test and was noted in the jepps. i believe it has since expired. kiah

08-01-2007 | 09:34 PM

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http://dotlibrary1.specialcollection...ot_aircraftacc

If you can paste the above website and scroll down to the bottom it explains why the 10k/250 airspeed limitation was imposed. It's under the year 1960 UAL and TWA midair. It was a UAL DC8 and TWA 1049 that crashed above NYC. Hope this helps.