Connect and get the inside scoop on Airline Companies

Welcome to Airline Pilot Forums - Connect and get the inside scoop on Airline Companies

If this is your first visit, be sure to check out the FAQ. Join our community today and start interacting with existing members. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free.


User Tag List

Post Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 08-03-2007, 04:37 PM   #1  
Line Holder
Thread Starter
 
cfier's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Feb 2007
Position: Saab FO
Posts: 25
Default Training Contract

I am currently a Colgan FO and looking to go to Pinnacle because I can be based at home in MSP and won't have to commute. I'm still under the training contract at Colgan, so if I left for Pinnacle how would breaking the training contract work. I really want to be based at home but I really don't want to have to pay the Colgans any money. I've heard the training contract in not enforceable but I'm not sure how it would work in this case. I appreciate your input.
cfier is offline  
Old 08-03-2007, 04:43 PM   #2  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: May 2007
Position: Some Hotel
Posts: 1,617
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by cfier View Post
I am currently a Colgan FO and looking to go to Pinnacle because I can be based at home in MSP and won't have to commute. ...........I really want to be based at home but I really don't want to have to pay the Colgans any money.
Didn't you know that before you went to Colgan?
CRJDriver is offline  
Old 08-03-2007, 04:53 PM   #3  
Gets Weekends Off
 
cfiguy11's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Nov 2006
Posts: 190
Default

theres an expensive mistake
cfiguy11 is offline  
Old 08-03-2007, 04:58 PM   #4  
Line Holder
Thread Starter
 
cfier's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Feb 2007
Position: Saab FO
Posts: 25
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by cfiguy11 View Post
theres an expensive mistake


Yeah tell me about it. I just didn't know that it was going to suck this much.
cfier is offline  
Old 08-03-2007, 05:05 PM   #5  
Chief Jeppesen Updater
 
FlyerJosh's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Oct 2005
Position: Executive Transport Driver
Posts: 3,047
Default

Simply put? If you quit colgan, be prepared to pay...

They may or may not try to enforce the contract. However it's important to know that regardless of whether they do or not, it's a written contract, that very well could be legally enforceable.

I'm seeing more and more employers these days that instead of suing the former employee, they are simply selling off the debt of the contract to a collection agency. While they don't recoup all of the money on the deal, they get a good chunk of it, and the collection agency then can utilize their large resources to claim the rest of the contract (often with interest after they win a civil court suit).
FlyerJosh is offline  
Old 08-03-2007, 06:59 PM   #6  
Che Guevara
 
ToiletDuck's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Aug 2005
Posts: 6,363
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by cfier View Post
I am currently a Colgan FO and looking to go to Pinnacle because I can be based at home in MSP and won't have to commute. I'm still under the training contract at Colgan, so if I left for Pinnacle how would breaking the training contract work. I really want to be based at home but I really don't want to have to pay the Colgans any money. I've heard the training contract in not enforceable but I'm not sure how it would work in this case. I appreciate your input.
This could be bad advice but I'd just leave. I've been told by several that have left their airlines that none of them had to pay anything. They said it would cost more in court and look bad for the company so they just let them go. This was several guys from Mesa though. I think I had about 7 of them in my training class and I don't believe any of them waited it out. Mesa just kept their last paycheck.
ToiletDuck is offline  
Old 08-03-2007, 07:07 PM   #7  
Line Holder
 
batman's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Jul 2007
Position: BE-1900 CA
Posts: 89
Default

You work for mainline, it cant be that bad! Come over to the beech (colgan express) and the beatings are just a little more severe.
No but seriously, Ive heard something recently about Virginia being a "right to work" state so they cant enforce the contract or something, maybe look into that?
I would think that the move to PCL would be better than to lets say, RAH, in terms of paying back the training contract- they do pay our paychecks after all.
Anyhow, we'll get stapled to the bottom of their list soon enough, so maybe just wait a few months and youll be holding the CRJ.

Dont forget to vote 'YES"
batman is offline  
Old 08-03-2007, 07:17 PM   #8  
Gets Weekends Off
 
cubflyer's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Feb 2007
Position: Waiting for retirements
Posts: 232
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by batman View Post
You work for mainline, it cant be that bad! Come over to the beech (colgan express) and the beatings are just a little more severe.
No but seriously, Ive heard something recently about Virginia being a "right to work" state so they cant enforce the contract or something, maybe look into that?
I would think that the move to PCL would be better than to lets say, RAH, in terms of paying back the training contract- they do pay our paychecks after all.
Anyhow, we'll get stapled to the bottom of their list soon enough, so maybe just wait a few months and youll be holding the CRJ.

Dont forget to vote 'YES"
"right to work" state means that the employer has MORE rights than you! Odds are they will enforce the contract.
cubflyer is offline  
Old 08-03-2007, 08:39 PM   #9  
Che Guevara
 
ToiletDuck's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Aug 2005
Posts: 6,363
Default

How long is the contract for? How much time to you currently owe on it? How much money would that equate to?
ToiletDuck is offline  
Old 08-04-2007, 12:28 AM   #10  
Gets Weekends Off
 
CubCAPTAIN's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Nov 2006
Position: SF-340 Left
Posts: 144
Thumbs up

You shouldn't have to pay squat. We are no longer working for the same company under which we signed a contract since the Pinnacle buyout.
CubCAPTAIN is offline  
 
 
 

 
Post Reply
 



Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search


Related Topics
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Compass Training contract DLconnection Compass Airlines 3 08-01-2008 07:09 AM
Commercial SEL/CFI training aerospacepilot Flight Schools and Training 3 08-01-2007 08:44 PM
I'm back. Things I learned in training. texaspilot76 Regional 44 07-24-2007 08:04 AM
Can Training Contracts Be Enforced? FLYBOYMATTHEW Flight Schools and Training 6 01-21-2006 10:35 AM
CAL training contract? muleskinner Hiring News 3 09-14-2005 08:02 AM


All times are GMT -8. The time now is 07:07 PM.