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Originally Posted by FlyingCheap
(Post 211477)
I'm not familiar with your situation Max, but I wanted to clarify the above statement as I think this is a situation many pilots find themselves in. I'm going to make an assumption that you were flying right seat on 135 ops for a company and that the company's op specs specified it was a single pilot operation with an autopilot. I'm also assuming that you did not have enough hours to have taken an IFR 135 checkride and were not piloting the paying legs, but may have been piloting the non-revenue legs. My last assumption is that you logged all of the time (all legs) in some fashion.
I'm not trying to delve into your private life here and kudos to you for sharing your situation so that the rest of us can learn. :) So, now on to my question: how does one log any of the above time as "Part 135 training". Doesn't a 135 training program have to be an FAA approved program and wouldn't it have to be in the company's op specs as such? Lastly, how would that time actually show up in the co-pilot's logbook (both revenue legs and non-revenue legs)? Thanks again for sharing! Ok. The Company’s op specs was specific regarding “Single Pilot Operation” with an autopilot….. However the Insurance Company was requiring a copilot. I was Flight as a SIC and “Log” as SIC . Furthermore I was in training in a Super King Air in order to get familiar with A/C. in prep of my Check ride . But I supposed to ride around and be an observer according to the Company after the FAA busted the Company files, and my logbook “PART 135--OPERATING REQUIREMENTS: COMMUTER AND ON DEMAND OPERATIONS AND RULES GOVERNING PERSONS ON BOARD SUCH AIRCRAFT-- Table of Contents Subpart E--Flight Crewmember Requirements Sec. 135.245 Second in command qualifications. (a) Except as provided in paragraph (b), no certificate holder may use any person, nor may any person serve, as second in command of an aircraft unless that person holds at least a commercial pilot certificate with appropriate category and class ratings and an instrument rating. For flight under IFR, that person must meet the recent instrument experience requirements of part 61 of this chapter…. …... “ Where I missed was The person who provided the training must sign the applicant's logbook or training record after each lesson in accordance with §61.51(h)(2) . In lieu of the trainer, it is permissible for a qualified management official within the organization to sign the applicant's training records or logbook and make the required endorsement. The qualified management official must hold the position of Chief Pilot, Director of Training, Director of Operations, or another comparable management position within the organization that provided the training and must be in a position to verify the applicant's training records and that the training was given. The Company ( Chief-Dir.-ect..) didn’t sign my logbook cause as ………..(RICKAIR) ……….mention previously… ”logging of SIC time in airplanes certified for single-pilot ops has been a confusing issue in the 135 world. It is legal if the 135 certificate requires an SIC...but it is NOT legal if the SIC is required only by insurance or company policy (or pay-for-training).” Anyway next time I will be more cautious in regarding ..!!!!!!!!!:eek: Thanks MaxJet:cool: |
Originally Posted by MaxFiano
(Post 210627)
Dear
rickair7777 Let put this way….”Political Reason”…:cool: Which in my power I did log the actual time in a “ good faith”. Remember I do have quite some time (over 5,100 hours) . Now the FAA did their diligent work to figure out what was Legal to” log or not to log” in Part 135 . The facts was the time was served on the plane as I stated in my logbooks as SIC it was filed on the Aircraft Company logbook as well , but the company that I was working with ….did not take the burden of their discrepancy regarding flying and Aircraft that supposed to operate as a “ single Pilot 135 Operator”…and such…..! Without going in further details. I have to tell you though that the (FAA) went little more aggressive against me due to my logbook lost. Well I hope that ( Airline ) companies take consideration that it was a “honest mistake “ considering my flight background and have received letters of recommendation and honors accrued in the past 15 years of my flight carriers ..! Thanks. MaxJet |
Cocaine thread drift:
These are the facts- He was an XJT flowthrough/flowback. It was cocaine He overcontrolled the a/c on take off from a domestic airport and the FO took the controls. He was NOT fired by XJT, they in fact put him through rehab He went back to CAL and is still there. Anything else in this thread related to the subject is false. |
Originally Posted by Bloodhound
(Post 211861)
Cocaine thread drift:
These are the facts- He was an XJT flowthrough/flowback. It was cocaine He overcontrolled the a/c on take off from a domestic airport and the FO took the controls. He was NOT fired by XJT, they in fact put him through rehab He went back to CAL and is still there. Anything else in this thread related to the subject is false. |
Originally Posted by MaxFiano
(Post 211413)
A Swiss man, looking for directions, pulls up at a bus stop where two Americans are waiting. "Entschuldigung, koennen Sie Deutsch sprechen?" he asks. The two Americans just stare at him.
"Excusez-moi, parlez vous Francais?" he tries. The two continue to stare. "Parlare Italiano?" No response. "Hablan ustedes Espanol?" Still nothing. The Swiss guy drives off, extremely disgusted. The first American turns to the second and says, "Y'know, maybe we should learn a foreign language." "Why?" says the other. "That guy knew four languages, and it didn't do him any good." http://www.smh.com.au/ffximage/2006/..._300x495,0.jpg |
Originally Posted by Bloodhound
(Post 211861)
Cocaine thread drift:
These are the facts- He was an XJT flowthrough/flowback. It was cocaine He overcontrolled the a/c on take off from a domestic airport and the FO took the controls. He was NOT fired by XJT, they in fact put him through rehab He went back to CAL and is still there. Anything else in this thread related to the subject is false. THATS IT I knew it was some sort of flow back or whatever and since it didnt happen AT CAL, he was able to go back!!!! |
Now maybe... Just maybe instead of ripping this guy based on rumor and half truths maybe we can be happy for they guy whom obviously had a big time problem that ran his life and turned himself around. Its great for him that he was able to fight off his addiction and be able to return to work.
This industry is full of folks who have issues just like the rest of the population, I am sure we have all flown with guys who have like the booze a little to much. |
Originally Posted by Flatspin7
(Post 212089)
Now maybe... Just maybe instead of ripping this guy based on rumor and half truths maybe we can be happy for they guy whom obviously had a big time problem that ran his life and turned himself around. Its great for him that he was able to fight off his addiction and be able to return to work.
This industry is full of folks who have issues just like the rest of the population, I am sure we have all flown with guys who have like the booze a little to much. I was just thinking .....in base of my experience... In July 1964, President Lyndon Johnson signed the Civil Rights Act into law. That evening, two disgruntled Ku Klux Klan members decided that they needed to kill a black person. Any black person. A 19-year-old black man named Mike Donald happened to be walking along a street in their town, and the two KKK members randomly chose him to be their victim. They drove Mike to a remote area and killed him. That evening, they drove back into town and hung Mike's body from a tree. Mike's mother sat through the entire trial of the two killers. Each day, the prosecutor meticulously depicted to her and the jury the details of her son's murder and the despicable nature of the two men who perpetrated the crime. One accused man who turned informant took the witness stand. He was overcome with emotion as he addressed his victim's mother. It is reported that the courtroom was silent as he began to sob and tell Mike's mother how sorry he was for what he had done to her son. It is said that you could have heard a pin drop as Mike's mother shifted back in her chair, looked first downward, then back up into the face of her son's killer. In a soft yet clearly audible voice she said, "I forgave you a long time ago." The attorney who was interviewed on television later said there wasn't a dry eye in the courtroom. Although it has been almost 40 years since Mike's mother spoke those words, their impact is undiminished. Most of us can relate to anger more easily than we can to forgiveness. Let's face it…forgiveness sounds like a great idea until we are the one who has to actually do it! Forgiveness is powerful, but it is very hard to do because it goes against the grain of our human behavior. And it is scary because it opens the door to unsettling feelings that require painful soul-searching. A friend of mine once said, "Forgiveness is not something we do for other people. We do it for ourselves. We are saying, 'I'm not going to let this eat me alive. I'm going to get well and move on.'" He's right. Forgiveness is a choice that cannot be forced or coerced. But by clinging to the past, we scarcely exist in the present. Ok I am going to bed ...!!!:rolleyes: see ya MaxJet;) |
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