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plasticpi 08-21-2007 12:39 PM


Originally Posted by CHQ Pilot (Post 218688)
*snip* If you really want to have fun, fly a SAAB or a Jetstream or learn from those that have. *snip*

Yeah! Finally some respect for an airplane you actually have to fly!

Tinpusher007 08-21-2007 02:28 PM


Originally Posted by plasticpi (Post 218693)
Yeah! Finally some respect for an airplane you actually have to fly!

With all due respect for the stick and rudder skills of those that fly turboprops...why get so hung up on it? Unless you plan to make a career at say PDT, flying Dash 8's you will eventually move on to flying a bigger, more automated turbo-fan powered aircraft where you will find yourself monitoring the A/P.

Point being, if thats where you end up, whats so wrong with starting out from the beginning in an RJ that way?

plasticpi 08-21-2007 02:49 PM


Originally Posted by Tinpusher007 (Post 218764)
With all due respect for the stick and rudder skills of those that fly turboprops...why get so hung up on it? Unless you plan to make a career at say PDT, flying Dash 8's you will eventually move on to flying a bigger, more automated turbo-fan powered aircraft where you will find yourself monitoring the A/P.

Point being, if thats where you end up, whats so wrong with starting out from the beginning in an RJ that way?

Nothing. I was just happy that us prop drivers got a little love. That's all. Can I be happy? I guess not.

matlok 08-21-2007 08:59 PM


Originally Posted by CL65driver (Post 218066)


EMBRAER:

Every
Mechanical
Breakdown
Requires
An
Electrical
Reset


.... so true!

ROTFL!!!

Embraer added this nice little feature that tells you how strong the GPU you're using is... when you start the APU, you just count how many displays go out! :p

CL65driver 08-21-2007 09:16 PM


Originally Posted by matlok (Post 219028)
ROTFL!!!

Embraer added this nice little feature that tells you how strong the GPU you're using is... when you start the APU, you just count how many displays go out! :p

Oh yeah- I know that one all too well. We killed a GPU the other day in SAT. Dropped the plane into Essential Power, and it wouldn't shut down.... even with the GPU disconnected, batteries off, everything off... dang thing was still in essential and refused to turn off. After 15 minutes on the phone with mx, the captain finally reset the proper CBs in the right order, with the planets properly lined up and the sun at 23 degrees- and she finally shut down.

:p

RightSeatDude 08-22-2007 03:12 AM

Only CRJ pilots will avoid the truth. And the truth is, the ERJ is superior. More automated and climbs better. The CRJ is a DOG above 20,000' or so. You may hear CRJ people say "the CRJ is faster!" Whoop di doo!! By 15 knots. Wow.


Originally Posted by diseda (Post 217980)
Does anyone have any preference and why?


Skyranger777 08-22-2007 04:23 AM


Originally Posted by RightSeatDude (Post 219114)
Only CRJ pilots will avoid the truth. And the truth is, the ERJ is superior. More automated and climbs better. The CRJ is a DOG above 20,000' or so. You may hear CRJ people say "the CRJ is faster!" Whoop di doo!! By 15 knots. Wow.

Its hard to believe that CRJ pilots "avoid the truth". I know the CRJ 200 is a dog above 20,000' especially in the summer, its like the the damn thing hits a wall and we start climbing at 1000'fpm or less. And when you finally get to 25,000' and look over at the FMS because you forgot what altitude you were planned at, and then see 32,000 as the final, you start to chuckle to yourself.
On the other hand, the CRJ 700 is a whole different animal. 1.5-2.5 all the way up to altitude at cruise, automation is much better, 2 FA's, and there is a forward lav so "just in case" you don't have to take the walk of shame. It is more like a "real" airliner.
But since I never have flown an ERJ, I won't bash it. From what I do understand, the CRJ is much more comfortable in the flightdeck and quieter. Which to me is much more important then anything else. There is nothing better than sliding your seat all the way back, kicking your feet up and stretching your legs out on the kick plate, drinking a cup of coffee, reading with your headsets off (above 18k of course) and relaxing.
Oh and who cares about speed until the "go home" leg. I get paid block or better.

av8tr_2007 08-22-2007 04:29 AM

Thanks! I have heard that the CRJ is a lot quieter and roomier in the cockpit too.

POPA 08-22-2007 04:56 AM


Originally Posted by Skyranger777 (Post 219121)
On the other hand, the CRJ 700 is a whole different animal.

Everybody knows the -700 is leaps and bounds ahead of the 145. Then again, with all those extra seats, wouldn't you expect it to be?
When comparing aircraft, you should place the -700 against the 170/175, not the 145.

av8tr_2007 08-22-2007 05:28 AM

I actually had the 200 in mind when comparing to the 145.


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