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sigep_nm 09-04-2007 10:42 PM


Originally Posted by kremit14 (Post 225739)
Had bedford in class today and he says that upgrade is going to drop two weeks every month and that 83 captians are being called back to US Air. Also with in the next year the EFB's are going to start getthing certified in the 170's

Would this be the same Bedford from MAIR/Mesaba fame?

G-Dog 09-05-2007 06:27 AM


Originally Posted by sigep_nm (Post 225811)
Would this be the same Bedford from MAIR/Mesaba fame?

The one and only.

ToiletDuck 09-05-2007 09:41 AM

Did he mention to you his plan for getting the 170's on CAL property? I was impressed.

Killer51883 09-05-2007 09:46 AM

out of curiousity what did he do with the MAIR/Mesaba incident you speak of

BoilerUP 09-05-2007 10:08 AM


Originally Posted by ToiletDuck (Post 225966)
Did he mention to you his plan for getting the 170's on CAL property? I was impressed.

I'm curious what his scheme is to force CAL ALPA to fold on scope...

NOBODY should want 70 seaters at Continental. Nobody.

Killer51883 09-05-2007 11:04 AM

when he visited my class a few months ago he mentioned that with alot of pilot contracts coming up for negotiations that the unions will be looking to protect or get back the pay and retierment benifits that they lost in the past few years. In return he says the union groups will have to give something up and the only thing they have left to lose is scope.

BoilerUP 09-05-2007 11:12 AM


Originally Posted by Killer51883 (Post 226010)
when he visited my class a few months ago he mentioned that with alot of pilot contracts coming up for negotiations that the unions will be looking to protect or get back the pay and retierment benifits that they lost in the past few years. In return he says the union groups will have to give something up and the only thing they have left to lose is scope.

Nothing, most certainly not scope, should be for sale in this environment. Nothing is worth giving up jobs...and the last 7 years have done nothing but cement that fact.

More small jets outsourced away from mainline might be good for your short-term upgrade...but they're hell for all of our career progression and expectations.

ERJ Driver 09-05-2007 11:22 AM

This is all good news for MAG would-be lateral movers! 1.7 year upgrade at Skywest is great... I imagine I will be doing a lot of right seat four-stripe flying in the next few months. :(

POPA 09-07-2007 06:56 AM


Originally Posted by Killer51883 (Post 226010)
when he visited my class a few months ago he mentioned that with alot of pilot contracts coming up for negotiations that the unions will be looking to protect or get back the pay and retierment benifits that they lost in the past few years. In return he says the union groups will have to give something up and the only thing they have left to lose is scope.

Pilots are getting harder and harder to come by with every day that passes.
Why, exactly, would any group have to give up anything?

Pdt's Btch 09-07-2007 07:38 AM


Originally Posted by POPA (Post 226961)
Pilots are getting harder and harder to come by with every day that passes.
Why, exactly, would any group have to give up anything?

Because profit margins are getting smaller and smaller with gas prices increasing.

There is no shortage of mainline pilots. Never will be.


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