Actually I think an FO is worth 75%. Why limit it to 60? I just have the feeling that the union is going to have a tough time as it is. I want them to focus on getting us trip/duty rigs. Those alone would increase our pay. Maybe not pay rate but I'd see a fatter check and it would also make them start making more efficient pairings for us. We'd get an increase in money and QOL with rigs. High pay in $ amounts doesn't mean jack if they keep making these 3hr days on 4 day trips. It's my opinion that it would be a two fold win where as fighting for a pay increase would only be one. I ran into a captain at mesa, been there 6 years, he was on a 3 day trip with a little over 6hrs pay total. That's what argueing for strait pay gets you. When our union goes in there I want them to give everything they've got to get trip/duty rigs. I've never said I didn't want a greater payscale, I said it's not on the top of my list. Don't put words in my mouth.

i think we need a flight attendant weight limit

Isn't the Republic fleet ETOPS certified, or in the process of becoming so? I just heard something to that effect from one of their CAs.

Nope.

The only aircraft ETOP certified through ICAO are: Last I checked we didn't fly any of those. There are ETOPS-75 and ETOPS-90 ratings too but obviously we don't have those either. The first E-jets to be ETOPS certified will be the 190's starting in 2008 flown by Virgin Blue. Should also be noted ETOPS isn't just for water it's for large uninhabitable areas which also includes deserts and other barren areas.

For the nay sayers who still don't believe it my seniority # jumped an additional 70 people this month. This was actually double what had been expected. Looks like the pilot group has grown to about 1980 pilots.

The 190 was ETOPS-75 certified by the FAA in early May of this year.
Given that Bedford has said he wants to fly 190s, this may have been what the CA was talking about.

Hey, Got hired class of Oct 29th. I have heard that the pilot contract was coming up for negotiation in Oct and I'm wondering if that means it should be signed and agreed upon in Oct or if the bargaining is starting in Oct and might take months?

that's kinda funny.

we're currently in negotiations with the company, and have been for the last few months.

expect that about the time you upgrade we'll have a contract signed.

Our new contract actually has an effective date of 30 Sept.
Some of the important points in our new contract:
*No block or better
*8:1 duty rigs
*Junior manning
*Universal pay rates for all aircraft
*Company-paid leather coats

You are an idiot. Do not listen to this crap.

at least there is a duty rig in there!

Students, today's lesson will be "irony."
The definition of irony is when somebody completely misses the blatant sarcasm in a statement, and accuses the source of said sarcasm to be an idiot.
:D

Bedford has said he wants to fly 190's? When and where? Never heard that one. We also have zero orders for 190's. As of march there were 650 firm orders and 558 options. We aren't getting any. The answer is still no. We don't have an ETOPS fleet and aren't in the process of getting one either.

That's not irony. Secondly people who don't work at RAH read this looking for info and might buy into your crap. It's unneeded.

8:1 duty rig, is that good? The way I understand duty rigs, you are paid 1 hour for every 8 that you are on duty. That sucks!

ChinookDriver47 we don't have duty/trip rigs. It's what we're arguing for but we have no idea how things are going as of yet.

as far as I understand, good ole GS isnt even looking to try and negotiate for Trip and Duty rigs, I cant understand this because if it were up to me, for the most part keep the contract the way it is, except work on language/definitions, cancellation pay, 170 rates and TRIP AND DUTY RIGS! i wouldnt mind keeping the same rates if we got a good trip and duty rig. More cash and better schedules. And god knows we need better schedules, I start a 9.5 hour 3 day tomorrow. WOO HOO!

I'll put money down rigs will come up. Take a look on the union board at how many will shoot down anything without rigs in it. They could just fire Joe Cespedes and I'd call it even. It's up to them. He makes sure we get those nice 3+hr sits in CVG all the time so he can reassign the captains.

I would take that trade as well. The three hour sits are rediculous, we might as well just have "junior manning" because every captain I fly with gets reassigned at least once during a paring. Now I know that the airplanes have to fly to make money so that they can pay us and I understand reassignments sometimes just happen, but with these brilliant schedules its set up so they always have hot reserve captains and its total BS. Rigs and cancellation pay would fix a lot of that problem.

I'd ask who peed in your breakfast cereal, but the list of people in line to do that is quite long.

Like I care about your crowd. Annoying.

First off, I work for RAH. Second, all you new guys here at RAH and you know who your are, stop spewing crap. Enought talk about 190s and how our union will not ask for trip/duty rigs. The not negotiating rigs is pure rumor. The 190s are wishful thinking. That ship does not belong at the regional level anyways.

I wasn't speaking against you Gdog you need to reread things. I support everything you've said in your post. I was talking to POPA who was talking about the contract which he has no idea, seems to think we are getting ETOP rated 170/175s which the brazilians currently aren't even trying to get rated, as well as hearing us wanting to get 190s.

I heard ETOPS A320/321's by the end of October.. I'm bidding for a class next month

Toiletduck where are you seeing that your seniority jumped 70 numbers in september?

it mas more in the neighborhood of 35 for september!

Where are you seeing 35, i'm looking at about 20

i moved 35 numbers from august to september according to flica. I dont know, seems pretty steady. From march to september I moved up around 130 numbers

from the last seniority list to right now in flica i moved up 20 numbers even, i'd like to know where he got 70

well not everyone moves up the same. Unless all your attrition is at the top of the list with no gaps! when were you hired?

may of this year, if anything i should have moved up more than him

YEAH, I have no idea what the contract says. :rolleyes:
Not exactly sure where that even plays into things we're talking about.

Maybe their paperwork is off. I took the PDF for October and compared it to my current position. There was a 70 count different as it's showing me in the 1600's. I might have have had a little wishful thinking lol. The companies list is from August while the new one on republic pilots was for October. Guess there were two months in there hahaha crap! I moved I think 26 people for next month :D I was suprised to see how many CA's there are now. Like 660ish.

I understand it was sarcasm but others who don't work here or didn't bother reading the page before it don't. Which is exactly why I said it's not needed. Some took you serious so it's important to point out you don't really know anything about the contract at all. It was pure BS.

This thread just got exciting:p

Junior Bases
 

Does anybody have a good idea of what bases are falling Junior at the moment? I'm specifically interested in the Republic cert, with the addition of Denver and the recent/impending addition of Philly what chance does a new hire have of holding DCA?

GW

Wait a second there, big guy. Let's back that truck up a minute.
How, exactly, does my light-hearted post indicate that I don't know anything about the contract? Please, tell me. I can't wait to hear this.
By the way, anybody who's done event the slightest bit of research into RAH would know that my post was completely false. As far as I'm concerned if you get hired by a company and show up for class without doing any research, you deserve the results of believing my post.

I was hired Jan. '07 and I moved from 1590 to 1511 this month. My 4 years of college taught me that adds up to 79. That seems like a lot but that's what I see.

My hire date was the end of this July and I've got 70 people under me now...not bad:) I think I've moved up about 30 spots as well. The big question is, how long will this continue. During indoc BB told us they're about where they want to be in terms of number of pilots...so we'll see what happens.

Duck,

I here ya, I was really refering to Popa. I understand that sarcasm was involved, but like Duck said, some people who are not in the know may take what you say seriously. That is why they come here to ask and we answer.

As far as comparing how far someone has moved up, I have moved up over 200 spots in a years time, with over 600 below me. Good times. I am very fortunate.