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TurboDog 07-29-2008 06:19 PM

It is possible that the company can only handle letting that many people go at one time, due to the time it will take for downgrades and training. Think about all of those captains that get downgraded to the 50 and then all of the ones that will get differences training to go into the 70. The diffrences class alone will take a month. There could be another list in September and then yet another in October. I hope it's not true, but it's possible.

Speedbird172 07-29-2008 06:24 PM

At that rate they'll probably be recalling before they get through all 291 cuts....maybe?

cyrcadian 07-29-2008 07:01 PM


Originally Posted by TurboDog (Post 435588)
It is possible that the company can only handle letting that many people go at one time, due to the time it will take for downgrades and training. Think about all of those captains that get downgraded to the 50 and then all of the ones that will get differences training to go into the 70. The diffrences class alone will take a month. There could be another list in September and then yet another in October. I hope it's not true, but it's possible.

Last time we furloughed, all 150 pilots found out at the same time and we all left the same day.

RU4692 07-29-2008 07:06 PM

There are 30 new hire FO's on that list that are still in training. If they let them go on Sept 1st before they get their 100 hours in type.... don't they have to send them through training all over again when/if they start recalling?

What a waste of time and money....

cyrcadian 07-29-2008 07:10 PM


Originally Posted by RU4692 (Post 435612)
There are 30 new hire FO's on that list that are still in training. If they let them go on Sept 1st before they get their 100 hours in type.... don't they have to send them through training all over again when/if they start recalling?

What a waste of time and money....

Another reason I think this is all a bit weird.

TurboDog 07-29-2008 07:48 PM


Originally Posted by RU4692 (Post 435612)
There are 30 new hire FO's on that list that are still in training. If they let them go on Sept 1st before they get their 100 hours in type.... don't they have to send them through training all over again when/if they start recalling?

What a waste of time and money....

That's how a seniority system works.

RU4692 07-30-2008 06:30 AM


Originally Posted by TurboDog (Post 435641)
That's how a seniority system works.

I understand how a seniority system works, but if they are so concerned about saving money, wouldn't you think they immediately furlough the pilots in training considering they are investing over 50k in a person they will not use?

Just my 2cents, and no I do not wish ANY pilots loose their jobs, considering the wasted time and money I would think they immediately cancel all training classes for new hires pending the outcome of reductions in capacity.

I honestly am of the opinion that this is just a scare tactic of Mr. D.S. and that this whole "reshaping of the airlines" is far from over.

Pantera 07-30-2008 06:48 AM

"I honestly am of the opinion that this is just a scare tactic of Mr. D.S"


I agree 100%

TurboDog 07-30-2008 07:15 AM

Comair has spent the money on the simulators for quite some time now. Even if they pull those newhires out of the SIMS, they have already paid for the SIM time. They can't get a refund on them, so why not use them.

The Chow 07-30-2008 07:51 AM


Originally Posted by TurboDog (Post 435802)
Comair has spent the money on the simulators for quite some time now. Even if they pull those newhires out of the SIMS, they have already paid for the SIM time. They can't get a refund on them, so why not use them.


Why not use the $$ already paid to the sims for the 60 captains who have to go through differences training for the 70?

note: I don't want anyone furloughed.....but when the company spends $$ in wasteful ways that I can see, how bad are they on the items i can't see?


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