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Speedbird172 09-08-2008 12:10 PM

I think they still have to cancel the displacement at least one more time before they take any more steps.

TurboDog 09-08-2008 12:14 PM

A trip built with More than 9 hours of flying in a 24 hour period requires how much rest?

Pilotguy143 09-08-2008 12:23 PM

I believe 10hrs. Reduceable to 9. Compensatory is 11 (I think)

TurboDog 09-08-2008 12:29 PM


Originally Posted by Pilotguy143 (Post 458065)
I believe 10hrs. Reduceable to 9. Compensatory is 11 (I think)

That is what I thought, however I am looking at a trip I start tomorrow and it has 5:02 on day two followed by 8:11 Reduced rest and 4:09 block on day 3. It's a 3 day trip, but while doing a 24 hour lookback on the last two flights there is more than 9 hours blocked within a 24 hour period and only 8:11 of rest in the middle.

Looking back on it now, I guess it is legal. I was doing the look back from the point that I started each leg. Forgot the look back looks back from the completion of each leg. How sh*t is it that during both look backs from my last two legs I have 7:57 flown in 24 hours. Guess it wouldn't really matter since more than 8, but less than 9 hours can still be reduced to 8 hours.

What reason does "required rest" have if a company can build you a schedule that is "reduced?" Don't ya just love how reduced rest was designed to be an exeption due to irregular operations and now it is "Comair Standard." It may be a few years off still, but I can't wait to smile at management when nationwide min rest goes to 10 hours.

mmaviator 09-08-2008 12:47 PM

God I can't wait to quit this job........

theaviator 09-08-2008 01:13 PM


Originally Posted by mmaviator (Post 458079)
God I can't wait to quit this job........

Yes I finally get to fly! I have a 3 day trip. Gone for 72 hours and I get paid for 11. I love my job.

Aileron 09-08-2008 01:35 PM


Originally Posted by theaviator (Post 458099)
Yes I finally get to fly! I have a 3 day trip. Gone for 72 hours and I get paid for 11. I love my job.

At least you have a job. Although with unemployment you still collect a paycheck and get to be home. :rolleyes:

flyandive 09-08-2008 02:12 PM


Originally Posted by Pilotguy143 (Post 458065)
I believe 10hrs. Reduceable to 9. Compensatory is 11 (I think)

Less than 9 but 8 or more and that would be correct.

More than 9 hours is 11 hours, reducible to 9, comp of 12.

Hours - Normal - Reduced - Comp

<8 -- 9 --- 8 --- 10
8<9 - 10 -- 8 -- 11
>9 -- 11 -- 9 -- 12

If it's that tight you got to do a look back from each leg to try and find the most amount of flying, and if it's more than 9 then 8 hours isn't going to do it. If it does come down to it being reduced then you have to have the comp rest within 24 hours after the START of your reduced rest.

TurboDog 09-08-2008 05:13 PM

It all makes sense to me now. I was doing the lookback from the beginning of the block before each flight. I forgot that you must look at the time the block is forcasted to end and do the lookback from that time. When I did that I have 7:57 and 7:55 for my last two legs on the day following the reduced rest. It's a 3 day trip that ends around 2:30 and I don't report in domicile until 6:30 the next morning. So I have plenty of compensatory rest.

Boomer 09-08-2008 05:25 PM


Originally Posted by TurboDog (Post 458231)
I have 7:57 and 7:55 for my last two legs on the day following the reduced rest.

If one of your flights "goes long" by 3 minutes on day 2, you could call sched and see if they'll displace you rather than risk delaying your first flight 2 hours the next day.


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