just refer to it as a training failure and the rest of your credentials will get you hired no problem. trust me if regionals are hiring 300 hour guys, your experience in the AF and being a CFI put you well above other applicants. Shoot your resume out and apply to all the regionals and take it from there.

Dear Clots07

Who is writing is someone that has had all licenses revoked from the Feds.

I have accrued almost a total of 5000 hours between Single Turbine and jet time in the past several years …!!!! I was a Chief Flight Instructor Part 141.…and 135.….bla….bla
Without mention names or Airlines…I have been offered jobs as soon my licenses will be restate it….!

So go figure ….You are absolutely fine …you have time experiences and foremost a “Military training’ which for an (Regional Airlines) means a lot.

By The way…(Hopefully some from the Feds participate in this forum can back me up)

The Regional like all the other Airlines are looking for Civilian background ( FAA ) which during your conversion from your DOT licenses .....the hours ............will be “translated’’ in a actual Flight time without “wash out remarks “ in your file ……Believe me, I was contracted as a Chief Flight Instructor for an A.F. Base

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MaxJet

Hi and welcome to the forum. Posting what you did took a little courage and it's a good thing you did.

There are many different types of flying. I know 20k+ hr heavy pilots that shake at the thought of flying crop dusters and duster pilots who don't know what airspace is above 18k feet. Your abilities in a fighter won't have so much a bearing on your abilities as a regional/major pilot.

I'm very sorry you didn't make it. I worked very closely with the UPT program for a little over a year and know how stressful it can be. I've seen guys with over 2500hrs go in and wash out completely. Sometimes it's just not what you were built for. What ever you do don't let it determine the road ahead of you. You have a bright future in aviation if you stay with it. The training you receive for a regional jet simply doesn't compare to the intense military training you get in UPT.

I'm at RAH and it's a good company. Where are you currently living? If interested in RAH send me a pm. I have no problem going through your resume with you and helping you promote yourself. It's not about failing. It's about showing how you learned from that situation. It's sounds like your issues for failing wouldn't infringe on your abilities as a commercial pilot. Keep your chin up and you'll see good things happen. Everyone fails something sooner or later, or should have, so it's just life. Yours happened at the wrong time. You realized what you were doing wasn't up to the standards needed for that situation which is one of the hardest things to ask of someone. Shoot me a pm if interested in RAH.

"Will a regional even want to hire someone in my situation?"

Just tell it like you told it here. In the present hiring enviornment, I doubt you'll have any problem. Good luck to you.

First I want to say having even gotten as far as you did in UPT is remarkable.

I work for Republic specifically for Shuttle America as Capt on the ERJ-170. I would say that talking positively about how you have learned from your experiences and has only benefitted you as a more experienced pilot and person is the way to approach HR and an interview. I would think that our company would love to have a person like you and it shows perseverence on your part to continue after a setback. Our company across all 3 certificates is struggling to find qualified pilots not unlike all the other carriers. As far as training I would not think that you would have any difficulty with initial training at all.

Hope this helps,

ERJ CAPT

ERJcaptain.... i just accepted a class date with Shuttle.... can you email me... i have some questions. [email protected]

What if you "failed out" of an officer training program?

"So why did you wash out of UPT?"

"Well, I had a little bit of trouble doing a Split-S and getting the guy behind me to follow."

"You're hired...please take my first born son as a signing bonus."

Basically, your qualifications should speak for themselves and the reason you washed out had nothing to do with flying in the 121 world whatsoever. Be honest and tell them what you learned. You've got the advantage in that your "tell me about a time..." story has absolutely nothing to do with anything even close to being 121 related. Be humble, appreciative, honest; and you'll be just fine.

you dont disclose that information because its not aviation training related

That one is not so good. You will DEFINATELY have to tell them because you will have to report all employers (including military). OCS is designed to mostly test personality, motivation, ethics, leadership, and stress handling all of which are relevant to the airlines (especially captains). Any sort of "suitability drop" would worry me, as well as an academic failure, because OCS academics are not that hard compared to 121 training (which is also conducted under stress).

If you failed the underwater swim or pushups, that will not be a problem. Anything else, you need to come up with a good explanation and be prepared to talk about what you learned from the experience.