Sure, there are good and bad pilots at all experience levels but, those examples are purely anecdotal. As was said previously, experience cannot be bought. You implicitly talked down to those building experience by "buzzing around VFR in the pattern at an uncontrolled field" This kind of flying is valuable in building experience. As a CFI, not only are you learning real stick and rudder but, you're interacting too. Sure, a you don't touch the stick much at all while instructing but when you have a student about to drag a wingtip in a gusty crosswind, damn right you'll learn to fly. Perhaps this CFI's next step is to fly checks single pilot at night, no autopilot etc etc, you've heard it all before. No matter how much money you pay them, Jet U and their ilk cannot give you the experience of going missed @ 3am and then your alternate goes zero zero. I'll take the real world experience guy over the 200 hour wonder any day, no matter how much "simulator and systems" training they've had. Your ass is never on the line in a simulator.


Well, no. Paying dues in other professions is absolutely not paying your dues in aviation, not even close.

ANY hiring method which involves the word "program" is bogus.

This isn't animosity, it is reality.

Your thinking is the exactly the kind of attitude that contributes to the race to the bottom in the aviation industry.

Hopefully by that time you would have learned a lot more. In the mean time with you current attitude, I would say that you won't receive many warm welcomes.

Good luck, (not sarcasm)

de727ups - You specifically accused me and others who go to bridge programs of having "low personal standards", and now you are accusing me of not "taking into consideration the gravity of what the job entails". Please consider what you are saying. Just because we can all hide behind our keyboards does not mean we can just spit out anything we want. You don't know me nor do you know any of the others who have gone through training that you didn't.

Your point about safety may be accurate. Time will tell but, assuming there are no Jet U crashes in the future, if ever, will you have an open mind and be willing to even consider that the schools are doing a good job?

I will say this. 2000 hours from now I will be supporting the bridge programs and I hope others will also. Hopefully that will be enough time for me to generate some respect.

"Just because we can all hide behind our keyboards"

Naw, I don't hide. http://www.jetcareers.com/content/view/65/132/


"2000 hours from now I will be supporting the bridge programs"

Have you even done IOE yet? Pretty strong thing to say for someone at your background and experience level.

Holy cow, DE, is THAT YOU????? :D

Unbelievable isnt it?, after all... he paid his dues.................The sense of entitlement is almost as sad as MESA's contract, although thats amendable, his sense of entitlement is not...........

"Holy cow, DE, is THAT YOU?????"

New hire pic when I was 29. I look older, now...

One thing people don't think about when they go to a place like Jet U is that they are paying for a regional job. Most pilots don't want to work at a regional for thier entire career and most majors/respectable employers of PROFESSIONALS require a 4 year degree. You can't buy that at Jet U. Enjoy your entire career as a regional airline pilot.

So that ugly mug got uglier.. just kidding, buddy! You kinda look like Toby from The Office!!! :D

ebl14 - I have a Masters Degree from the University of Colorado. Same old thing from you guys - you make assumptions without any basis in fact. Once again, I challenge anyone to provide factual information to back up their claims instead of just calling people names.

de727ups - Since when is a pilot job some kind of royalty? Entitlement? Being a pilot is a professional job, not an appointed position. It is a job I want and I took steps to get it.

Here's my last word on this because you guys are a waste of my time: The miserable state of affairs for pilots happened on your watch, not mine. I didn't let it get this way, you and your kind did. You all sat around with your buddies and complained about how bad things were getting while it all went down the tubes.

By the way, you pay your taxes to stay out of jail and I pay way more than you do. Lame...